Tired of Masking

deadbeat

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I got tired of trying to mask the bottom of the shaft and the top of the butt when shooting auto clear so I made these little delrin spacers on the last 5 that I cleared and they worked great. Just wondering if anyone else does anything like this?

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yes
but i threaded mine , made them larger diameter than joint,
keeps the clear from "rolling over" the edge .
spraying butt & shaft seperatley
 
Yes, I've used something very similar to that in the past.

For shafts, which are spinning on a pointed center, we angle to gun slightly so that we don't spray on the face of the joint.

For the buts, our booth spinner for the pin side is small diameter piece of delrin with a whole in it for the pin. The delrin reaches all the way to the face, and we spray it just like the shafts, with the gun angled slightly so that we don't spray the face.


Royce
 
I also angle the gun so that the spray does not go on the face of the shaft or butt while spinning the part in a lathe. Other thing I do is leave .005" on the facings which is cut as part of the final process of joint work.
 
It would be less work when finishing if you stopped masking your shaft. Just blend each pass and you wouldn't have a hump.
Thanks Frank FC3
 
yes
but i threaded mine , made them larger diameter than joint,
keeps the clear from "rolling over" the edge .
spraying butt & shaft seperatley

Do you ever have the clear peal back on the joint when it is larger? That was my concern and why I made them slightly smaller and face of the edges.
 
Do you ever have the clear peal back on the joint when it is larger? That was my concern and why I made them slightly smaller and face of the edges.

When you prep your joints don't leave a sharp edge, slightly sand so the finish has more to bit.
 
Do you ever have the clear peal back on the joint when it is larger? That was my concern and why I made them slightly smaller and face of the edges.
nah, the clear wont stick enough to the delrin to do that
 
If I was not holding an exact joint size which I suspect you may not be, I would just screw the butt and shaft together and spray them together. Tap the cue until you see a white line appear where the joint breaks apart and quickly snap it apart. Once wet sanded the joint is perfect feeling to each other. That is how I finished cues for a few years until I started using sanding mandrels. At first I used stainless mandrels, but they wore a little and were only good for a dozen or so cues before they just started getting used for lathe pins and inserts. But once I got them made with carbide collars I have never looked back and that was about 20 years ago. If you are building cues and not just refinishing cues I strongly suggest you invest in carbide sanding mandrels.

But for the time being if you really want to use Delrin I would thread the delrin and run it on to the butt. Turn it to a perfect fit for the butt. Then screw the shaft on. This will elminate the build up and round lip.
 
I got tired of trying to mask the bottom of the shaft and the top of the butt when shooting auto clear so I made these little delrin spacers on the last 5 that I cleared and they worked great. Just wondering if anyone else does anything like this?

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Might want to shoot a bit less finish per go around. Notice the inner tube at the face of the purpleheart cue where the finish has sagged. Mupltiple thin coats will work much better than thick coats. Plus you will trap less solvent which can cause shrinkage problems down the road.
 
Might want to shoot a bit less finish per go around. Notice the inner tube at the face of the purpleheart cue where the finish has sagged. Mupltiple thin coats will work much better than thick coats. Plus you will trap less solvent which can cause shrinkage problems down the road.

Yeah, this was a special situation. Had to have the cues completely finished by tomorrow morning. Nephew and niece needed Christmas presents and asked for them at last minute. I put 4 heavy coats of finish on them hanging, not turning on a lathe.

Chris, I have some mandrels I use, I like my joints at .850, but you are right, I need some carbide mandrels. I can see how you can snap apart the sticks with a wrap, but what if you wanted to do that with a wrapless cue? I actually have a mandrel that is carbide but only for shaft that is .845, I may keep it for a maintenance pin, but the one I used to use is stainless. It is also a maintenance pin now.
 
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Brent, I wish I had more time so I could have put the PH in the oven. Did you say it adds good taste to a roast?:cool:
 
I taped a shaft for finish about once. Then I questioned the necessity. There is none.
Using tape creates a dam that would need to be sanded down to blend.
I shoot auto-clear and I don't do it all in one coat; avg. 3-4.
Point is, I stop just short of where the previous coat ended creating blended layers.
There is no dam and there's much less sanding.
I do this for a living, I don't want to work any harder than I have to.

KJ
 
Yeah, this was a special situation. Had to have the cues completely finished by tomorrow morning. Nephew and niece needed Christmas presents and asked for them at last minute. I put 4 heavy coats of finish on them hanging, not turning on a lathe.

Chris, I have some mandrels I use, I like my joints at .850, but you are right, I need some carbide mandrels. I can see how you can snap apart the sticks with a wrap, but what if you wanted to do that with a wrapless cue? I actually have a mandrel that is carbide but only for shaft that is .845, I may keep it for a maintenance pin, but the one I used to use is stainless. It is also a maintenance pin now.

It makes no difference if the cue has a wrap or not, because you wait until the cue is totally dry before snapping it apart.
 
Never used them or seen them used. Everyone says they are great, Is there any videos or pictures. I did a search, but didn't find anything except folks saying how good they are.
Steve
 
Never used them or seen them used. Everyone says they are great, Is there any videos or pictures. I did a search, but didn't find anything except folks saying how good they are.
Steve

They look just like maintenance arbors, except with carbide sleeves ground to your specs where they meet the collars.

Expect around 300.00 each set.
 
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