Tony Chohan Interview - "APA takes in 26mm, pays out 1mm"
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I consider that competition. Gambling by definition requires a material consequence
Ask them, I'm sure they'd love to have a conversation with you.
Quite Right.
Gambling is the wagering of money or something of value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning money or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize.
Continued: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling
I'm not so sure I agree in these terms. To each his own. I do feel that playing for something, ANYTHING, is a great way to get a person to concentrate. Some people can bet lots of money and not try as hard as they would if they were playing someone for pride. Motivating yourself to try your best, IMO, is the key to improvement.
If this is the direction that this thread is going, I'll gladly bow out and let you guys all agree with each other.
Playing One Pocket without a wager is a joke. There are no good players that will play OP for nothing. It's all about the cash.
There are different levels of wagering for sure. Back in the day the old timers would tell me of good players offering to play for cheap like 10 or 20 a game and it was your pleasure to lose and they would offer no weight.
They schooled you.
There are different levels of wagering for sure. Back in the day the old timers would tell me of good players offering to play for cheap like 10 or 20 a game and it was your pleasure to lose and they would offer no weight.
They schooled you.
The best way to get better by gambling (it's not the only way btw) is to bet an amount that will sting a little if you lose, but won't cause your wife to leave you or get the power shut off.
The biggest reason people don't improve from gambling is a combination of bad game selection and not adjusting the bet properly. The worse the game is, the less you should bet.
The biggest reason people don't improve from gambling is a combination of bad game selection and not adjusting the bet properly. The worse the game is, the less you should bet.
I don't agree with those people.
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Which of the following 4 gambling pressures motivates you the most and helps you to play your best?
Money.
Bragging rights.
Self-improvement.
Tournaments.
(I swear, I asked myself this same question and I can't really decide which one motivates me the most.)
JoeyA
Money.
Bragging rights.
Self-improvement.
Tournaments.
(I swear, I asked myself this same question and I can't really decide which one motivates me the most.)
JoeyA
New York Blackie would gamble for even less per game in the winter of his life. When I asked him how he made a particularly difficult shot he replied, "YOU GOTTA HIT IT GOOD!"
JoeyA
When Tony was asked about Fargo ratings, he also said something quite negative.
He said that he couldn't care less about ratings and thinks that they "don't work" or something to that effect. He seems to think that playing for money is everything and that consistency over many, many matches to give a high rating doesn't mean anything. His rationale seems to be that people could purposely sandbag to get a bad rating so that they would then get a bigger handicap to snap off money or tournaments.
From a quick scan that I did or an older Top 100 Fargo list, Dennis was ranked as number 4 with a 814, when I couldn't even find Tony on the list. Maybe he's trying to psych himself up telling himself that Dennis's super high Fargo rating doesn't mean anything. I guess we'll see...
He said that he couldn't care less about ratings and thinks that they "don't work" or something to that effect. He seems to think that playing for money is everything and that consistency over many, many matches to give a high rating doesn't mean anything. His rationale seems to be that people could purposely sandbag to get a bad rating so that they would then get a bigger handicap to snap off money or tournaments.
From a quick scan that I did or an older Top 100 Fargo list, Dennis was ranked as number 4 with a 814, when I couldn't even find Tony on the list. Maybe he's trying to psych himself up telling himself that Dennis's super high Fargo rating doesn't mean anything. I guess we'll see...
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Personally, I do not care to play for funsies. To me, that's like playing poker for funsies with every swinging dick at the table drawing to an inside straight every hand.
Playing for money -- an amount that will sting, not kill if you lose -- tests your mettle and gives you a more accurate reading of where you stand as a pool player. (It will also put a spring in your step if you prevail.) If you're playing for funsies, well then, you're going to swing at those crazy ass shots. But if you're playing for money, chances are you're going to more carefully consider your options and some of those long straight-ins that you'd normally whack in with gay abandon will not look quite so inviting. We have all seen the "A player" who turns into a "C player" when gambling. So then: is he truly an A player or really a C? The money tells the tale.
IOWs you need to be able to do, what you *think* you can do, under pressure and a cash bet is a handy way to create that pressure.
Lou Figueroa
Playing for money -- an amount that will sting, not kill if you lose -- tests your mettle and gives you a more accurate reading of where you stand as a pool player. (It will also put a spring in your step if you prevail.) If you're playing for funsies, well then, you're going to swing at those crazy ass shots. But if you're playing for money, chances are you're going to more carefully consider your options and some of those long straight-ins that you'd normally whack in with gay abandon will not look quite so inviting. We have all seen the "A player" who turns into a "C player" when gambling. So then: is he truly an A player or really a C? The money tells the tale.
IOWs you need to be able to do, what you *think* you can do, under pressure and a cash bet is a handy way to create that pressure.
Lou Figueroa
You touch on a good point, Lou. When something is on the line, you tend to take the right shots more often. That's one way to improve by gambling.
You have to play for something. You can beat the best player ever 10 times in a row for nothing but bet $10 a see what happens lol
Actually playing pool for fun is like winning the world championships by yourself in your house in your imagination like a 12 year old kid does lol. Yeah you won it but you didn't get no trophy, no money, or nobody cares.
Harvey Penick one of golf's greatest all time teachers said Always put some money on the game. Whether it be a quarter or fifty cents a hole. It doesn't mean anything if nothing is on the line. You'll concentrate more and be more ready to handle bigger matches where more is on the line. You get used to playing w some pressure.
If the apa wants to rape it's voluntary subjects and those subject volunteer themselves and those numbers are correct, then yeah, get what you deserve.
If the apa wants to rape it's voluntary subjects and those subject volunteer themselves and those numbers are correct, then yeah, get what you deserve.
nevermind.