Tony Robles and Amsterdam Billiards

I add my thanks. It's highly likely that there is no nicer - or better-liked - guy in all of billiards than Tony Robles. GF
 
Nice article about the very classy Tony Robles and about the Amsterdam Billiard Club, still the gold standard for me when it comes to poolrooms.

Of course, one line in the article jumped off the page so high that it put a dent in the ceiling of my Manhattan apartment.

"during the current economic crisis, billiards appears to be making a comeback"

Yowser! Of course, the Amsterdam Billiard Club is doing well and experiencing growth. Owner Greg Hunt offers the best pool entertainment product that I've ever experienced and he always has. His commitment to delivering a top-notch product is unswerving and unparalleled in New York City, and his exceptional staff adhere to his very high standards. I know how fortunate me and other New Yorkers are to have a chance to play in the paradise Greg Hunt has built for us.

Nonetheless, the suggestion that pool is making a comeback is either poorly researched, poorly reasoned, or both. Poolrooms are closing right and left, including in the New York City area.

So, while I'm very pleased to see pool, Tony Robles, and the Amsterdam Billiard Club getting some positive press, I must dismiss at least some of this article as a work of fiction, and when I choose to read fiction, I prefer Shakespeare and Dickens to the New York Times.
 
sjm said:
Nice article about the very classy Tony Robles and about the Amsterdam Billiard Club, still the gold standard for me when it comes to poolrooms.

Of course, one line in the article jumped off the page so high that it put a dent in the ceiling of my Manhattan apartment.

"during the current economic crisis, billiards appears to be making a comeback"

Yowser! Of course, the Amsterdam Billiard Club is doing well and experiencing growth. Owner Greg Hunt offers the best pool entertainment product that I've ever experienced and he always has. His commitment to delivering a top-notch product is unswerving and unparalleled in New York City, and his exceptional staff adhere to his very high standards. I know how fortunate me and other New Yorkers are to have a chance to play in the paradise Greg Hunt has built for us.

Nonetheless, the suggestion that pool is making a comeback is either poorly researched, poorly reasoned, or both. Poolrooms are closing right and left, including in the New York City area.

So, while I'm very pleased to see pool, Tony Robles, and the Amsterdam Billiard Club getting some positive press, I must dismiss at least some of this article as a work of fiction, and when I choose to read fiction, I prefer Shakespeare and Dickens to the New York Times.


Why not let this be the self fulfilling phophesy instead the one that says pool is dying. Either way, the more you mention that it is doing one or the other, the more likely that direction is the one pool will take. Positive article like this, regardless of the stats, are exactly what pool needs. And yes while pool rooms are closing, people are still playing. There are more and more league members, custom cuemakers are still working, and while the jump isn't much, pool supply stores are selling more tables and accesories than they in the last 6 quarters.

So I say, lets us believe this notion, fiction or not, because not taking as fact lends nothing to pool while well written articles in the NY Times taken as valid could bring people into the sport.

LAY OFF GOOD ARTICLES!!!
 
Texas Prez said:
Why not let this be the self fulfilling phophesy instead the one that says pool is dying. Either way, the more you mention that it is doing one or the other, the more likely that direction is the one pool will take. Positive article like this, regardless of the stats, are exactly what pool needs.

Sorry, fella, but this forum consists of those who already play pool, not those that might play it one day. If the NY Times article will have a positive impact on the game, it is certainly not on those who post here. I think that if you reread my post, you'll see that I, too, celebrate the attention given to pool, one of its best players, and one of its best rooms.

Still, my post will have no impact on those that might one day pick up the game, and I will stand by my post, directed at those of us that already know pool's ladscape, that the article misrepresents the sport's current state.

I can see where you are coming from, and I do appreciate and approve of your philosophy here. Still, I think your response would be perfectly reasonable if I had written a rebuttal to the article and sent it into the NY Times hoping it would be printed, for then I would be addressing a completely different group of people than I am here on the AZB forum.

For the record, I have never and will never subscribe to the notion that one cannot post anything negative or controversial about pool here on AZB. All topics of pertinence to the game and its future are fair game in these parts, where pool's greatest intelligentsia reside. Once upon a time, many posters were infuriated by those of us that expressed some concerns about the IPT, suggesting we were somehow reducing the likelihood that the business venture would succeed.

The complete truth counts for something in these AZB parts, and the day I feel otherwise, my days of posting here will be behind me.
 
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sjm said:
Nonetheless, the suggestion that pool is making a comeback is either poorly researched, poorly reasoned, or both. Poolrooms are closing right and left, including in the New York City area.

So, while I'm very pleased to see pool, Tony Robles, and the Amsterdam Billiard Club getting some positive press, I must dismiss at least some of this article as a work of fiction, and when I choose to read fiction, I prefer Shakespeare and Dickens to the New York Times.

It doesn't always work, but sometimes just telling people what is/willbe popular... makes it popular. Like magazines that show what the next trends are in fashion or music. So saying pool is on the comeback COULD be a ploy to get pool on the comeback. Of course, I think we both know it will take more than that.
 
sjm said:
Sorry, fella, but this forum consists of those who already play pool, not those that might play it one day. If the NY Times article will have a positive impact on the game, it is certainly not on those who post here. I think that if you reread my post, you'll see that I, too, celebrate the attention given to pool, one of its best players, and one of its best rooms.

Still, my post will have no impact on those that might one day pick up the game, and I will stand by my post, directed at those of us that already know pool's ladscape, that the article misrepresents the sport's current state.

I can see where you are coming from, and I do appreciate and approve of your philosophy here. Still, I think your response would be perfectly reasonable if I had written a rebuttal to the article and sent it into the NY Times hoping it would be printed, for then I would be addressing a completely different group of people than I am here on the AZB forum.

For the record, I have never and will never subscribe to the notion that one cannot post anything negative or controversial about pool here on AZB. All topics of pertinence to the game and its future are fair game in these parts, where pool's greatest intelligentsia reside. Once upon a time, many posters were infuriated by those of us that expressed some concerns about the IPT, suggesting we were somehow reducing the likelihood that the business venture would succeed.

The complete truth counts for something in these AZB parts, and the day I feel otherwise, my days of posting here will be behind me.


First off, apology:
I think you misinterpreted my tone here, I didn't mean to call you out or anything. Of course you are free to write whatever you please and please do so. All is fair in love and war and you should rest assure that I am not angered by you comment. This is a forum, its conversational, nothing more, right?

Now about your view ;)
I just don't understand how taking such a dire view of pool and its future will accomplish anything. Again I know you respect and love the game, otherwise you would know about this site nor have so many posts.... I guess the only reason I can give you for refuting your comment is that I am a part of the future and I am working right now to proliferate this sport and bring it to its true potential. I feel that my effort and others like me is somewhat all for not when I hear these posts about the "true" condition of pool. So sorry for the rebuttle but at least you can see where I coming from.

(these kinda posts get to serious for me so I am going to leave it at that... hopefully what I said makes sense....who knows?)
 
Texas Prez said:
I guess the only reason I can give you for refuting your comment is that I am a part of the future and I am working right now to proliferate this sport and bring it to its true potential. I feel that my effort and others like me is somewhat all for not when I hear these posts about the "true" condition of pool. So sorry for the rebuttle but at least you can see where I coming from.

Thanks for your post. I have great admiration and respect for you and all those who passionately set out to make pool's future brighter than its present. I wish you success in all your ventures and all your efforts.
 
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