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Olive

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'm not a giant by any means, but at 6 ft 2" and quite long arms, i grip the cue quite far back. In relaxed position with tip to cueball, my grip finishes at 58" exactly. So any cues with a wrap just feel wrong to use - the only kind of "standard" cue i could play with would be a sneaky with a very slim buttcap. readymade choices are very limited to say the least! Naturally that leads me to custom made cues, but as i like to try new things, resale of extra long cues is difficult, so i'm going with 30" shafts and regular 29" butts. How it will affect the cue.. i dont know :S

does anyone else have similar trouble in regards to their height or wingspan and what are your thoughts?
 
Olive said:
hi all
'm not a giant by any means, but at 6 ft 2" and quite long arms, i grip the cue quite far back. In relaxed position with tip to cueball, my grip finishes at 58" exactly. So any cues with a wrap just feel wrong to use - the only kind of "standard" cue i could play with would be a sneaky with a very slim buttcap. readymade choices are very limited to say the least! Naturally that leads me to custom made cues, but as i like to try new things, resale of extra long cues is difficult, so i'm going with 30" shafts and regular 29" butts. How it will affect the cue.. i dont know :S

does anyone else have similar trouble in regards to their height or wingspan and what are your thoughts?
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I have a 60 inch Joss COM copy and I use the 30in shaft with other cues also. Works great for me. I have an extra 5/16 x 14 30 in. shaft available with a solid black collar.
Purdman :)
 
there too

I prefer wrapless cues because I don't like the feel of two different surfaces under my hand. As it happens, I am six two with a lot of wingspan also.

Although I have shot well with my hand well back on the cue, part of the solution can be to move your grip hand forward a bit. This may be accompanied by a shorter bridge or not. Although it feels comfortable to reach the grip hand well back, notice many of the great shooters with their hands near the front of the wrap. We aren't that much bigger, we have just adopted a different style. Moving the hand forward feels constricted at first but does add a lot of touch and control.

I do use a 60" stick still since it is what I was shooting with. It is often handy on a nine foot table. Sixty inches and thirty inch shafts play just fine. I tried a 32 inch shaft once and that particular one was an absolute noodle. Cut it down to 30 inches and it played OK.
 
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I am 6'5" and have never found a 60" cue I cared for. For some unknown reason 59 inches seems to be the sweet spot for me. Mark Wilson is strong advocate of a cue being longer in proportion to a players height and makes a strong argument for it. IRC he is around 6'4" and plays with a 62" cue. I was able to hit some balls with it a few years ago and found it interesting but no so much I wanted fire 4-600 on a test. I am in the same boat with you in that I dont want to buy one and then be stuck with it. Bad as I hit 'em it doesnt really matter any way. :D

Good luck in finding the right one for you.
 
Well, I'm 6'5'' (1.96 m) tall. I have played most of the time with 58'' cues,that's ok . Two years ago I bought a 30'' Z2 shaft and played with it for one year. Then decided to come back to standard shaft with standard length and ordered a custom cue (58''). Now I just received another custom cue, from the same cuemaker, wich is originally about 59'' The extra length is divided for half an inch on the butt and the other on the shaft.

My opinion is that if you change the shaft of your playing cue with a 30, 31, etc... inches shaft, it will modify the balance of your cue... it's factual. Then It is not so easy to adapt to this change. Depending of the original balance of the cue and also of your abilities. The balance of a cue could be wondreful with 29' shaft and would turn bad with a 30'' or 31'' inches. The reverse is possible too. I will finally recommend other than standard length cue only if it was build longer originally, like the one I just received. The extra length is distributed between the butt and the shaft and the balance is wich the cuemaker wanted.

Just my experience... Worth what it is worth

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JCIN said:
For some unknown reason 59 inches seems to be the sweet spot for me.
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For me it's exactly the same ;)
 
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right now i got a 29 inch butt with a 30 inch shaft in the works, will be balanced accordingly, hopefully will be good :)
 
I am also 6'5" tall. I had a Schon cue that I really liked but I did not like the feel of gripping the cue behind the wrap, so I ordered a 30" shaft from Schon. It did not change the fell of the hit, but the balance was terrible. I contacted a custom cue maker Chad Carter and he made a 60" cue for me and adjuseted the position of the wrap and I love it. When I have to make a long bridge I still have to grip near the back, but it is not all the way back like it was on my Schon so it does not feel as bad. Just a Thought.
 
JCIN said:
I am 6'5" and have never found a 60" cue I cared for. For some unknown reason 59 inches seems to be the sweet spot for me. Mark Wilson is strong advocate of a cue being longer in proportion to a players height and makes a strong argument for it. IRC he is around 6'4" and plays with a 62" cue. I was able to hit some balls with it a few years ago and found it interesting but no so much I wanted fire 4-600 on a test. I am in the same boat with you in that I dont want to buy one and then be stuck with it. Bad as I hit 'em it doesnt really matter any way. :D

Good luck in finding the right one for you.
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Try what I did. I had my cue man make a 2 1/2" extension that has male and female threads on opposite ends and screws into the shaft and butt.It gives an accurate forecast of what a longer shaft plays like.
 
No tips just wing it with whatever you have.
 
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I am 6'8" and I use a 60" cue with a 5" extension added between the shaft and butt (65"). With a normal length cue, I was forced to drop my elbow whenever I stroked. this setup works very well for me.
 
Olive, it sounds like you and I are very close to the same size, and I just grip my cue behind the wrap. Works fine for me.

-Andrew
 
I'm 6'3" and I grip the cue close to the end as well right behind the wrap or right at the end of the wrap and it's worked fine for me for a long time now. I have never thought about going to a longer shaft. I'll have to ask around and see if someone I know has one that I can hit a few with before I purchased one.
 
We are a lot of tall guys in here !

What about a Tall Players section for us in AZ forum :D LOL
 
stevea said:
I'm 6'3" and I grip the cue close to the end as well right behind the wrap or right at the end of the wrap and it's worked fine for me for a long time now. I have never thought about going to a longer shaft. I'll have to ask around and see if someone I know has one that I can hit a few with before I purchased one.
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I do the same (without a wrap, thank goodness), and videos show that even with my grip right on the butt cap my forearm is forward of perpendicular at CB address. I think this makes me hit lower on the CB than I want to, so I get less follow and, surprisingly, less draw too (I guess because I'm more likely to miscue when going for the extreme limit so it makes me "gun shy").

The idea of adding an extension between the shaft and butt appeals to me both for cost and balance reasons. Think I'll talk to Ed Young about it...

pj
chgo
 
Im tall, have big hands, and long arms.....Im short compared to some of you guy's (6-1) but I still have trouble dealing with standard length cues......


Recently, i played with short house cue, (57") i did find if i shortened my back swing, i play better....being tall means short backswing with a standrd length cue, thats what id tell you...

60" should be standard, imho, built right nothing beats the balance....



SPINDOKTOR
 
One of my best friends use to play in a league with me and he was 6'10". He never took the game to seriously and never looked to get better really, to him it was just a league night where he could hangout and drink but he used a house cue, which i think are all 58"
 
SPINDOKTOR said:
Im tall, have big hands, and long arms.....Im short compared to some of you guy's (6-1) but I still have trouble dealing with standard length cues......
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This isn't surprising - the length of your arms can be greater than other 6-1 people, or you might have my problem: wide shoulders, which also lengthens your poolplaying wingspan.

Recently, i played with short house cue, (57") i did find if i shortened my back swing, i play better....being tall means short backswing with a standrd length cue, thats what id tell you...
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A short backswing is easier to control even for (most) shorter people.

60" should be standard, imho, built right nothing beats the balance....
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I think a longer cue can be balanced to feel the same as a shorter one, and taller players should get the length that suits them (if they can find it). Two kinds of extensions were mentioned above: for the butt cap and for the joint. These sound like an inexpensive alternative to a new shaft or a whole new cue, and by choosing the right one you might be able to address the balance issue.

pj
chgo
 
My upper arm is very long. That is the critical factor moreso than height, imho.

Since my lessons recently, I now grip the cue about one inch from the end (I mark it with scotch tape) and I hate that my hands are touching the bottom bumper which is digustingly dirty in a bar. But trade-offs must be made to play this crazy game. :)

Wanna shake my hand?

Jeff Livingston
 
well, from the top of my arm, at the shoulder to the end of my middle finger, is about 30"

my palm, at its widest point is a litte over 5"

and i do have wide shoulders too....


SPINDOKTOR


Patrick Johnson said:
This isn't surprising - the length of your arms can be greater than other 6-1 people, or you might have my problem: wide shoulders, which also lengthens your poolplaying wingspan.



A short backswing is easier to control even for (most) shorter people.



I think a longer cue can be balanced to feel the same as a shorter one, and taller players should get the length that suits them (if they can find it). Two kinds of extensions were mentioned above: for the butt cap and for the joint. These sound like an inexpensive alternative to a new shaft or a whole new cue, and by choosing the right one you might be able to address the balance issue.

pj
chgo
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I'm 6ft 7'' and for two years I've been trying to find the right cue for me . I have had 5 cues till now : 63'' Schmelke ( 30/33 ), 60'' Viking ( 29/31 ) , Mcdermott 58'', Dominiak 60 (30/30 ) , Predator 5k2 59'' ( 29/30 ) .
Now I'm waiting for a custom 60'' Pechauer ( 30/30 ) , if this will not work I'm going to order a 64'' Viking ( 32/32 ) . :mad:
 
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