top player spot on wich table??
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Southpaw said:
Wait, are you saying they told you this or this is what you think they would say?
BPG24
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I have been more succesful getting the 7 & 8 (for example) from a shortstop level player (or above) on a very tight table...
I have lost more often on standard or looser tables to shortstop or above level players...
IMO it all depends on the style of players involved, given that they are both experienced..
Another factor is, even for a pro its harder to make balls on the break on a tight table... So strings of racks are much harder to produce
I have lost more often on standard or looser tables to shortstop or above level players...
IMO it all depends on the style of players involved, given that they are both experienced..
Another factor is, even for a pro its harder to make balls on the break on a tight table... So strings of racks are much harder to produce
BPG24 said:
You would rather get the 6 out on a 9'table than on a bar table??? Are you serious?? You have a chance to run racks on a bar table that you are way less likely to do on a 9 footer. The easier table favors you more. Same difference with a loose 9' and a tight 9'. The tougher table is gonna affect your ball pocketing ability wayyyyyyy more than a top pros.
Southpaw
I may be wrong, but I don't think they would. If you are giving the 6 out, I think you need a table that it is easier to run out on. If the better player is running out, the weaker player shoots less. And if the better player should miss, it will be so close that the ball will probably hang in the pocket anyway.Southpaw said:
I have only given this type of weight occasionally, but when I did, I wanted a table that it was easier to run out on.
Mike
A loose 9' table is still much tougher than a bar table. Of course, if I had a bunch of money balls, I'd rather play on a bar table. Why not? I'd have money balls flying all over the place with nowhere to go but one of those huge ass pockets. 
Using the bar table argument though to demonstrate why "easy pockets" is the right answer isn't fair anyway. That's an extreme case that isn't realistic. We could make an extreme case in the other direction and say, "yeah, but what about a 10' table with 3" pockets?". I promise that, on a 10' table with 3" pockets, you are going to get A TON of shots, and I don't care who you're playing, essentially closing the gap between the better player and the weaker player; just like the bar table.
Using the bar table argument though to demonstrate why "easy pockets" is the right answer isn't fair anyway. That's an extreme case that isn't realistic. We could make an extreme case in the other direction and say, "yeah, but what about a 10' table with 3" pockets?". I promise that, on a 10' table with 3" pockets, you are going to get A TON of shots, and I don't care who you're playing, essentially closing the gap between the better player and the weaker player; just like the bar table.
Mike Templeton said:
Their ball pocketing ability and their ability to control the cue ball better and their knowlege is their edge, right? So why would they improve one of your disadvantages (ball pocketing) by playing it on a table that can only help you? Now remember this thread is about a top player giving you a huge spot, not a shortstop or a B player giving the weight. They will out move you because they are going to adjust their game to suit the table and a weaker player cannot. The weaker player HAS to be on equipment that he can take as much advantage of as he can when he gets an opportunity.
Southpaw
I'm curious now. We will have to ask Stevie or Shannon the next time we see them. I'd like to see what they think.Southpaw said:
I think that if I'm playing Stevie or Shannon with the 6 out, as the weaker player I would much rather play on very tight tables to keep them from putting together alot of racks on me.
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Mike Templeton said:
I can tell you exactly what they will say, as well as Bruce, because they've told me before. The lessor the player the tighter the table they want to give the spot on.
I watched SVB give Tony Watson and Troy Frank the 8 on a tripple shimmed diamond in Atlanta last year and he stone cold ROBBED both of them. He beat Tony out of $6k @ $500/ game and he beat Troy 8 ahead in about 2 1/2 hrs for $4000. Now do you honestly think that they would not have had a better chance on a looser table? They couldnt get out so the spot was basically obselete, but on a looser table the spot comes into play more.
Southpaw
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BPG24
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Southpaw said:
I think you are giving them too much credit, or us too little...
If a top pro gives one of us the 6 out or whatever, and we break and run to our spot ball and make it, then it doesn't matter how good they are...
They can't adjust much in this case besides how they sit in their chair...
I consider myself a B player, and have won many safety/kicking battles against better players...
Strategy can be used by B players... Whether they choose to or not is another issue