Toupee Jay!!

Russ Chewning

Short Bus Russ - C player
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As I said in my PM, I think a lot of us would like to hear some more war stories.. How about the one where you follow through a whole stack in One Pocket to beat Jimmy Fusco? How you beat so-and-so? Doesn't matter if ya got weight or not.. Give us some more gritty details of what it was like as a road warrior!

Russ
 
Russ, Based on your location, I'd say you are the true road warrior of this board. I just wanted to say thank you for your service. :)
 
pwd72s said:
Russ, Based on your location, I'd say you are the true road warrior of this board. I just wanted to say thank you for your service. :)


Me too, Russ. It is greatly appreciated. Be safe my friend. Now, I’m with Russ. Up some of those war stories, Jay. Did you ever match up with anyone down my way? Cleo Vaughn, Earl Heisler or any of the guys I learned from? Did you happen to know Bill Lee?
 
hemicudas said:
Me too, Russ. It is greatly appreciated. Be safe my friend. Now, I’m with Russ. Up some of those war stories, Jay. Did you ever match up with anyone down my way? Cleo Vaughn, Earl Heisler or any of the guys I learned from? Did you happen to know Bill Lee?

I'm old, but not that old. I did see Cleo in Johnston City, but he was way out of my league back then. He was a well known high roller and I was still playing $2-$5 9-Ball. I heard of Bill Lee and may have seen him shoot somewhere, but It's doubtful I ever played him.
 
jay helfert said:
I'm old, but not that old. I did see Cleo in Johnston City, but he was way out of my league back then. He was a well known high roller and I was still playing $2-$5 9-Ball. I heard of Bill Lee and may have seen him shoot somewhere, but It's doubtful I ever played him.

C'mon Jay, you could match up most, even then.:) as for the thread name, well I found this from the Stardust........

JayHelfer.jpg


Mike
 
Russ Chewning said:
As I said in my PM, I think a lot of us would like to hear some more war stories.. How about the one where you follow through a whole stack in One Pocket to beat Jimmy Fusco? How you beat so-and-so? Doesn't matter if ya got weight or not.. Give us some more gritty details of what it was like as a road warrior!

Russ

Russ,

That shot (and match) got a write up in Shots, Moves and Stategies. I think I explain it there. When the cue ball is frozen to an object ball, there is a way to judge the direction the cue ball will take when shooting thru the object ball.

If you imagine a straight line thru the cue ball and frozen ball, then imagine a straight line thru the cue ball and the other object ball you want to hit. So now you have two straight lines, both beginning at the cue ball. If you bisect this angle between these two lines, that is your aiming point. Shoot straight thru that point and you will hit the second object ball in the face.

On the shot in question, I aimed slightly high to hit the top of the second object ball. And it worked beautifully, so well that the ball banked across the table into my pocket. I did want to hit the top of the ball to move it toward my hole, so it was not completely lucky. After contact the cue ball rolled a few inches past the stack and left me another open shot. From there I ran out the rack, and Jimmy got weaker, allowing me to upset him.

Jimmy was a better player than me and a few weeks later in L.A. he gave me 8-7 and beat me. So he got his revenge.

For me being a road warrior was a lot of fun, mixed in with some excitement. I was young and dumb and just wanted to play pool every day.
In Dayton, where I grew up, the games became scarce after I started to beat all the guys who used to rob me. So after sitting on my ass for the better part of a year, I headed West at age 22. Dayton was never to be my home again.

I stopped in every town along the way that was big enough to have a poolroom. I would look in the phone book (at a phone booth) and find the poolrooms and write them down. I would usually start with the one with the biggest ad. I would go in and walk straight to the counter most of the time, and tell the house man I was looking for a game. It never took long to get in action that way.

More often than not, I would be playing the best player in the room from the get go. It's what I wanted anyway, to be tested. Back then, a standard game for a road player was $5 or $10 9-Ball, or a set for $50. One pocket games started at $10, and $20 was a good bet. Back then, (in the 60's), if you won $100, it was a good score. $50 a day and you were living good.

I must have played 500 guys over the course of the next five years. Only a few beat me. Wade Crane (aka Billy Johnson), Larry Lisciotti, Peter Gunn and Mexican Mario I remember for getting my cash. I used to say I had a record like the Gobetrotters, because sometimes I won every day for months at a time. Of course, I ducked all the top players who I already knew.

Almost everyone I played back then was even. I couldn't give a spot to someone unknown to me and I couldn't ask for one either. When someone asked me for a spot, I had a whole lecture I would deliver about being a man and playing even. Sometimes it worked too. I would play nearly any game someone wanted to play. If a guy said let's play some Eight Ball, I would say how much. I figured that if I played better than a guy, I could beat him at any game. And I usually did.

Probably 75% of my action was 9-Ball back then. Maybe 20% One Pocket and the last 5% other games. I did play Three Cushion, Snooker and even 14.1 for money a few times. After I played a game for a while, I would get the hang of it, and then it was all over. I had played all these games in Ohio so I was not unfamiliar with any of them. My mentor as a kid was Jake Spitler, a great all around player from yesteryear. He made me practice all the different cue games. One day it was Three Cushion all day and one day it was Snooker etc.

Being on the road was a great learning experience for me, the best education I ever got. More often than not, after beating a guy, someone who was watching would steer me to my next game. When the games ran out in a town, I would move on. It took me three months to reach California, and I arrived early in December. It was 70 degrees and sunny, and I knew it was freezing in Dayton. It felt like I had arrived in paradise.

And it seemed like that in pool too. In the 60's, there weren't as many good players as today. And the bar pool action was going hot and heavy. Bar tables were still kind of a new phenomenon. Everyone was playing and they weren't very good. I could go in a bar and put my quarter on the table, and get into a game quick. The standard bet was $1 a game Eight Ball. Sounds like nothing now, but I can remember many nights holding the table for hours, and walking out with my pockets stuffed with cash.

When you start to win, everyone wants to be the guy who beats you. Sometimes there would be a dozen quarters lined up on the rail, with people waiting to play me. I loved it and just kept on winning. Every once in a while, someone had a chance to beat me, but they ususally dogged it. Too much pressure.

So that's how my life looked until I bought my first poolroom at age 27. I had been back and forth across the USA a couple of times and all over the Northwest and Southwest playing. I had a pretty good idea of what made a successful poolroom, after seeing so many of them. I had about 15K (a big bankroll at the time) and I wanted to own a poolroom, because life on the road was already wearing me down.

So I settled down in Bakersfield, CA, bought a poolroom, got married and made babies. But the urge to play was still there, and my spot became a stop on every road man's itinerary. I must have played another hundred guys in my six years in Bakersfield. And I beat a few big guns too. Cole, Keith, Waterdog, Bakersfield Bobby and Billy Ray made contributions to my favorite charity. And many more whose names you wouldn't recognize. I even beat the great Lou Butera in a 9-Ball exhibition match (he blistered me in 14.1 tho).

My road days were over tho, and my only traveling after that was to an occasional tournament.
 
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jay helfert said:
And it seemed like that in pool too. In the 60's, there weren't as many good players as today. And the bar pool action was going hot and heavy. Bar tables were still kind of a new phenomenon. Everyone was playing and they weren't very good. I could go in a bar and put my quarter on the table, and get into a game quick. The standard bet was $1 a game Eight Ball. Sounds like nothing now, but I can remember many nights holding the table for hours, and walking out with my pockets stuffed with cash.

When you start to win, everyone wants to be the guy who beats you. Sometimes there would be a dozen quarters lined up on the rail, with people waiting to play me. I loved it and just kept on winning. Every once in a while, someone had a chance to beat me, but they ususally dogged it. Too much pressure.

I know exactly what you mean.. I never had the hunger to play for money back when I was improving a lot, but if offered by someone I didn't know, I'd saddle up. It was funny though.. A dude can't play all that well, basically just weel enough to beta the bangers, but sees me cream everyone for hours, but wants to step up and bet a $20.00.

My attitude was always "It's your money, dude..." And that guy, more than anyone else, would get occasional chances to run a few balls and out, but would inevitably dog his @55 off. His problem wasn't usually that he shot THAT much worse than me, it was that he didn't want to win nearly as BAD as I did...

Russ
 
jay helfert said:
Russ,

That shot (and match) got a write up in Shots, Moves and Stategies. I think I explain it there. When the cue ball is frozen to an object ball, there is a way to judge the direction the cue ball will take when shooting thru the object ball.

If you imagine a straight line thru the cue ball and frozen ball, then imagine a straight line thru the cue ball and the other object ball you want to hit. So now you have two straight lines, both beginning at the cue ball. If you bisect this angle between these two lines, that is your aiming point. Shoot straight thru that point and you will hit the second object ball in the face.

On the shot in question, I aimed slightly high to hit the top of the second object ball. And it worked beautifully, so well that the ball banked across the table into my pocket. I did want to hit the top of the ball to move it toward my hole, so it was not completely lucky. After contact the cue ball rolled a few inches past the stack and left me another open shot. From there I ran out the rack, and Jimmy got weaker, allowing me to upset him.

Jimmy was a better player than me and a few weeks later in L.A. he gave me 8-7 and beat me. So he got his revenge.

For me being a road warrior was a lot of fun, mixed in with some excitement. I was young and dumb and just wanted to play pool every day.
In Dayton, where I grew up, the games became scarce after I started to beat all the guys who used to rob me. So after sitting on my ass for the better part of a year, I headed West at age 22. Dayton was never to be my home again.

I stopped in every town along the way that was big enough to have a poolroom. I would look in the phone book (at a phone booth) and find the poolrooms and write them down. I would usually start with the one with the biggest ad. I would go in and walk straight to the counter most of the time, and tell the house man I was looking for a game. It never took long to get in action that way.

More often than not, I would be playing the best player in the room from the get go. It's what I wanted anyway, to be tested. Back then, a standard game for a road player was $5 or $10 9-Ball, or a set for $50. One pocket games started at $10, and $20 was a good bet. Back then, (in the 60's), if you won $100, it was a good score. $50 a day and you were living good.

I must have played 500 guys over the course of the next five years. Only a few beat me. Wade Crane (aka Billy Johnson), Larry Lisciotti, Peter Gunn and Mexican Mario I remember for getting my cash. I used to say I had a record like the Gobetrotters, because sometimes I won every day for months at a time. Of course, I ducked all the top players who I already knew.

Almost everyone I played back then was even. I couldn't give a spot to someone unknown to me and I couldn't ask for one either. When someone asked me for a spot, I had a whole lecture I would deliver about being a man and playing even. Sometimes it worked too. I would play nearly any game someone wanted to play. If a guy said let's play some Eight Ball, I would say how much. I figured that if I played better than a guy, I could beat him at any game. And I usually did.

Probably 75% of my action was 9-Ball back then. Maybe 20% One Pocket and the last 5% other games. I did play Three Cushion, Snooker and even 14.1 for money a few times. After I played a game for a while, I would get the hang of it, and then it was all over. I had played all these games in Ohio so I was not unfamiliar with any of them. My mentor as a kid was Jake Spitler, a great all around player from yesteryear. He made me practice all the different cue games. One day it was Three Cushion all day and one day it was Snooker etc.

Being on the road was a great learning experience for me, the best education I ever got. More often than not, after beating a guy, someone who was watching would steer me to my next game. When the games ran out in a town, I would move on. It took me three months to reach California, and I arrived early in December. It was 70 degrees and sunny, and I knew it was freezing in Dayton. It felt like I had arrived in paradise.

And it seemed like that in pool too. In the 60's, there weren't as many good players as today. And the bar pool action was going hot and heavy. Bar tables were still kind of a new phenomenon. Everyone was playing and they weren't very good. I could go in a bar and put my quarter on the table, and get into a game quick. The standard bet was $1 a game Eight Ball. Sounds like nothing now, but I can remember many nights holding the table for hours, and walking out with my pockets stuffed with cash.

When you start to win, everyone wants to be the guy who beats you. Sometimes there would be a dozen quarters lined up on the rail, with people waiting to play me. I loved it and just kept on winning. Every once in a while, someone had a chance to beat me, but they ususally dogged it. Too much pressure.

So that's how my life looked until I bought my first poolroom at age 27. I had been back and forth across the USA a couple of times and all over the Northwest and Southwest playing. I had a pretty good idea of what made a successful poolroom, after seeing so many of them. I had about 15K (a big bankroll at the time) and I wanted to own a poolroom, because life on the road was already wearing me down.

So I settled down in Bakersfield, CA, bought a poolroom, got married and made babies. But the urge to play was still there, and my spot became a stop on every road man's itinerary. I must have played another hundred guys in my six years in Bakersfield. And I beat a few big guns too. Cole, Keith, Waterdog, Bakersfield Bobby and Billy Ray made contributions to my favorite charity. And many more whose names you wouldn't recognize. I even beat the great Lou Butera in a 9-Ball exhibition match (he blistered me in 14.1 tho).

My road days were over tho, and my only traveling after that was to an occasional tournament.


Good stuff:)

Did your travels ever take you into Texas? I'd love to hear some stories about that:)
 
Deadon said:
C'mon Jay, you could match up most, even then.:) as for the thread name, well I found this from the Stardust........

JayHelfer.jpg


Mike


Where did you get that photo? That's from when I could play a little.
 
Thanks, Jay. Very good read. Did you ever make any of the Greenway tournaments in Baton Rouge? You were the topic of many discussions there. I remember James Christopher always having a smile on his face when you were being discussed. I even remember his girlfriend at the time, Kathy Key, speaking of you. James met her in LA where she was from. If you ever knew Kathy you would never forget her. Seems like Popcorn and James were laughing and telling stories of your exploits. Bottom line is all the talk I ever heard in the south about you there always seemed to be smiling when your name came up.
 
Dead Money said:
Good stuff:)

Did your travels ever take you into Texas? I'd love to hear some stories about that:)

I went back and forth across Texas twice. Le Cue in Houston was the big action spot in the 70's. I watched Craig Stevens run out all day and night, giving the seven ball to Blackie. A couple of days later he went broke, giving some bum the 7, 8 and the break. Go figure.

I played a few guys in there and won some money, until they sicced Gabby on me. He beat me one set for $100 and I ran for the hills. I played at the old Cotton Palace in Dallas, one of the roughest poolrooms in America. I won about $400 off some guy who couldn't play, but liked to bet high. James Christopher told me to get out of there quick, because the guy sent for some people to rob me. Thanks James.

I tried to match up with Amarillo Slim, but he refused to give any weight and wanted to bet a hundred a game. Too high for me back then. In Fort Worth, I made one of my all time biggest scores at Rusty's, playing Norman some Tonk. Something like eight grand. I left there early in the morning with my pockets stuffed with 50's and hundreds. Chris MacDonald was with me.

I also found action in San Antonio, but left when they brought "Bananas" Rodriguez in to play me. Lubbock was a good pool town too, with lots of soft action in the 60's. I don't think I got a game in Wichita Falls. I remember waiting for some guy to show up all day. I got disgusted and left. El Paso was full of good bar spots, but notoriously dangerous. I played some cheap pool there (maybe $5 eight Ball) and never got out of line. I may have made a hundred bucks or so, but didn't want to hang around there. There were fights in most every bar, and someone got stabbed or shot nearly every night in El Paso in the 70's.

Oklahoma was a lot like Texas back then. Lots and lots of action, but quite dangerous. I played all over in the small towns. Lawton had a street full of bars, with bar tables in every one. Tons of soft action, but full of drunk indians. I won so much money that they invited me to play some indian kid on the reservation. Stupid me, I went there to play this kid who shot real straight. I was in a bar on the reservation. I started off winning, but could feel all the heat I was getting. I let him get even and then got the hell out of there as quickly as I could.

I used to carry a small Browning .25 in my back pocket everywhere. It gave me a false sense of security. Fortunately I never had to use it. I only took it out of my pocket twice. Once to defend a friend of mine who was getting stomped to death in Bakersfield. The second time my girlfriend Linda pulled it out of her purse, when some guy threatened me with the butt end of a pool cue. That happened in Vegas after I played Monk for hours. I thought we were even, but this guy said I was quitting winners. Linda would have shot him for sure. And I think he knew it, because he put the cue on a table, and we left.
 
jay helfert said:
I went back and forth across Texas twice. Le Cue in Houston was the big action spot in the 70's. I watched Craig Stevens run out all day and night, giving the seven ball to Blackie. A couple of days later he went broke, giving some bum the 7, 8 and the break. Go figure.

I played a few guys in there and won some money, until they sicced Gabby on me. He beat me one set for $100 and I ran for the hills. I played at the old Cotton Palace in Dallas, one of the roughest poolrooms in America. I won about $400 off some guy who couldn't play, but liked to bet high. James Christopher told me to get out of there quick, because the guy sent for some people to rob me. Thanks James.

I tried to match up with Amarillo Slim, but he refused to give any weight and wanted to bet a hundred a game. Too high for me back then. In Fort Worth, I made one of my all time biggest scores at Rusty's, playing Norman some Tonk. Something like eight grand. I left there early in the morning with my pockets stuffed with 50's and hundreds. Chris MacDonald was with me.

I also found action in San Antonio, but left when they brought "Bananas" Rodriguez in to play me. Lubbock was a good pool town too, with lots of soft action in the 60's. I don't think I got a game in Wichita Falls. I remember waiting for some guy to show up all day. I got disgusted and left. El Paso was full of good bar spots, but notoriously dangerous. I played some cheap pool there (maybe $5 eight Ball) and never got out of line. I may have made a hundred bucks or so, but didn't want to hang around there. There were fights in most every bar, and someone got stabbed or shot nearly every night in El Paso in the 70's.

Oklahoma was a lot like Texas back then. Lots and lots of action, but quite dangerous. I played all over in the small towns. Lawton had a street full of bars, with bar tables in every one. Tons of soft action, but full of drunk indians. I won so much money that they invited me to play some indian kid on the reservation. Stupid me, I went there to play this kid who shot real straight. I was in a bar on the reservation. I started off winning, but could feel all the heat I was getting. I let him get even and then got the hell out of there as quickly as I could.

I used to carry a small Browning .25 in my back pocket everywhere. It gave me a false sense of security. Fortunately I never had to use it. I only took it out of my pocket twice. Once to defend a friend of mine who was getting stomped to death in Bakersfield. The second time my girlfriend Linda pulled it out of her purse, when some guy threatened me with the butt end of a pool cue. That happened in Vegas after I played Monk for hours. I thought we were even, but this guy said I was quitting winners. Linda would have shot him for sure. And I think he knew it, because he put the cue on a table, and we left.

Very cool. Thanks:)
 
Dead Money said:
Very cool. Thanks:)

I took Louie Roberts to Austin and Sid Mann's big tournament at the Villa Capri. We went to some local hot spot one night and Louie lit 'em up for a few thou, giving weight to everyone. We were leaving about 7AM and who comes in the parking lot but Jimmy King in a Caddy, waving a handful of 100's out the window.

Louie had a match that afternoon, and I told him he needed some rest. But Louie couldn't pass up a game, so I gave him half the winnings and left him there. He wandered in about Noon dead broke and in no shape to play a match. He got knocked out of the tournament and I had to give him some "get home" money.

First time I ever saw Vivian. She was about 18 and a little beauty. And she could play too. I think she won the Women's division. Mizerak may have won the Men's. I remember he asked me to referee all his matches. Sid paid me like $50 a day to ref. And I got a room. Thanks to Louie I escaped with some cash in my pocket. I was always good that way.

The first time I went to Red's, Ronnie let me stake him in the One Pocket tourney. While Efren was opening everyone's eyes playing 9-Ball, Ronnie quietly took off the One Pocket, beating Jeff Carter in the finals. We won $4,000, not small change back then. Plus a $500 gift certificate to a men's clothing store. I had gotten a free entry into the tournament in exhange for advertising in the National Tavern News. And they picked up the room tab as well.

My only expense was getting there, and we drove in the days of .39 cents a gallon. About $20 in gas each way. We took Ronnies big station wagon and he had his golf clubs and fishing gear in the back. We stopped in Phoenix and Ronnie won $800 in a bar playing one handed Eight Ball (against their two). He was amazing. He would drink with them and laugh and make jokes and rob them, and make them love it. They couldn't wait for him to come back.
 
hemicudas said:
Thanks, Jay. Very good read. Did you ever make any of the Greenway tournaments in Baton Rouge? You were the topic of many discussions there. I remember James Christopher always having a smile on his face when you were being discussed. I even remember his girlfriend at the time, Kathy Key, speaking of you. James met her in LA where she was from. If you ever knew Kathy you would never forget her. Seems like Popcorn and James were laughing and telling stories of your exploits. Bottom line is all the talk I ever heard in the south about you there always seemed to be smiling when your name came up.

James and I were friends. I gave him several good steers where he won good. And I helped him handicap some games. Popcorn and I were friendly rivals until I steered Frank Tullos to Five Points and he robbed the place for over $3,000. That move got me beat up next time I went out there. Oh well, that's pool for you.
 
Jay,

Any stories of trips through Georgia and Florida? Any chance you were still on the road when an early teen Johnny Archer was startin' to hit em straight?

What about the other side of the country? Ever make it up to Washington state? I'd imagine if you shot One Hole back then, you probably made it over to see Harry Platis once or twice? Or did you go off the road before he came on the scene?

Russ
 
Great stories, Jay. Have you ever considered putting all this into a book? If you did I'd love to read it.

And after seeing that old pic it makes me realise what a good job the casting agent did for Poolhall Junkies!
 
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