Trent Cowgill - THIEF THIEF THIEF

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meridianblades said:
AAAAHHHH............so now the wood was brittle ??? WOW....

OK well here's some of the same type of Koa that was sent to Trent to make my cue. It was professionally stabilized by the same company that did the cue wood. These have been in my kitchen for a couple years and are dunked in hot soapy water (blades and WOOD HANDLES) at least twice a day.... Blades (Santuko and Chef) were made by a good friend of mine, Mike Stewart, owner of Bark River Knives in Escanaba, Michigan.

He produces about a 100 blades a day....gosh I wonder how he does it with all that "brittle wood, that's oily and sappy, and won't glue up" ????

Trent where are the pictures of you boxing up the cue and the shafts ??

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Your just gonna keep dragging this out....

Please find where I ever said the wood was oilly or sappy in any post ever. I didn't. It was mentioned that some stabilized wood is inpregnanted with teflon which doesn't glue well. I've also never said this was the cause.

And yes brittle as another cue maker with experience in wood like this mentioned to me in pm.

You have your tracking number, now wait for your cue and come down off your soap box.
 
copy cat

meridianblades said:


Now that is funny...... Yeah that brittle wood has to be "watered" once in awhile. Altho can oily, sappy wood be brittle ??........Hmmmm...

Think they have this book @ the local library in Etna ???

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Now make sure you sight your sources for referring to this book.:rolleyes:
 
Trent said:
Your just gonna keep dragging this out....

Please find where I ever said the wood was oilly or sappy in any post ever. I didn't. It was mentioned that some stabilized wood is inpregnanted with teflon which doesn't glue well. I've also never said this was the cause.

And yes brittle as another cue maker with experience in wood like this mentioned to me in pm.

You have your tracking number, now wait for your cue and come down off your soap box.
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Trent said:
ok i finally have the email with your address it only took a week and a half and this thread that didnt need to be started.

ill take a pic of me sticking it in the box so youll know the contents are being shipped. as long as i have time before i head to work ill get it done today, if not then tomorrow for sure

and thats it, now wasnt that easy?:confused:
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TEFLON ??? That has to be one of the most ABSURD things I have ever read. This just keeps getting better and better.....So, then Trent how do you explain all of the other industries and my own personal experiences in milling it, and gluing it, and so on and so on ?????

ALSO your quote is up above saying you we're gonna take pictures of you boxing it up ---Where are the pics ???
 
Trent - the reason people make agreements in the first place is so they will have a game plan when stuff goes bad. If it goes good everyone knows what to do, its when it goes bad that we make the promises for. For you to decide to break your agreement because stuff happened is just plain wrong, that's why you made the agreement in the first place.

Larry - I can see that you were wronged her and have every reason to be angry. What I can't see is why you are continuing to perpetuate the situation that makes you mad? What that is positive for you is in it for you?

Trent broke his agreement and acted badly. He's a guy you don't want any more to do with. Then why keep posting him?

Thanks

Kevin
 
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TATE said:
Trent,

If there is one lesson from this episode - when it comes to business, use your brain and not your heart.

So you messed up a cue. Big deal. But you handled the public relations part just as bad as could be.

Despite the drama, in the end, you did the right thing and shipped it. That means something and if you handle the PR properly from here, it may yet be the one thing people most remember.

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Chris

Disney has a management training group (very expensive) that hires out and teaches the "Disney Method". One of the things they stress is finding ways to help your employees not be acting (and reacting) on a personal basis. That's why at Disney everybody is a "cast member" with a role to play. That's why when you walk up to the register they are ready to take your money, not talking to each other about their lives. Their lives stopped when they got on Company property and then they went into your role. Please imagine looking out into an office full of your staff all of them perfecting their roles as Tate's employees and leaving their personal baggage at the door when they stepped into your stage.
Receptionist always in role as "cheerful helpful receptionist" and never "angry person who had a bad night".

Ah to dream
Kevin
 
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kvinbrwr said:
Trent - the reason people make agreements in the first place is so they will have a game plan when stuff goes bad. If it goes good everyone knows what to do, its when it goes bad that we make the promises for. For you to decide to break your agreement because stuff happened is just plain wrong, that's why you made the agreement in the first place.

Larry - I can see that you were wronged her and have every reason to be angry. What I can't see is why you are continuing to perpetuate the situation that makes you mad?

Trent broke his agreement and acted badly. He's a guy you don't want any more to do with. Then why keep posting him?

Thanks

Kevin
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No agreement was broken.

The initial agreement was that if anything went wrong at all to just send the wood back. The wood is in the mail in the form of a very nice cue with a bad Ajoint.

I didn't break anything. Even if I would have dissasembled the cue and mailed the 3 pieces back to him I still would have been following our agreement.

And yes go figure someone making a cue didn't hit a deadline but what he. Isn't saying is there was a problem with a piece of wood in january I believe and he sent me another piece and the cue wasn't started until late jan. And he was updated constantly with pics and informd when I was running behind if he had ever had a problem I would have sent him his wood back no problem.

So many people post on this and all you have is half the story.

The cue is on the way larry, you can post all the pics you wish after you receive it. No pics on my end for this forum. I didntt have time before I left for work.

I've already admitted to the cue being bad, sent it anyway even tho I didn't want to, and been aquesed of selling it, called a theif, been threatened and now pestered online aboput things I didn't say.

I couldn't care less about your wood what the knife industrty does or what ypu do with your new cue larry.

What more do you want from me?

An apology?

I'm sorry I tried to not send you a bad cue, I'm sorry for trying to do you a favor and make you this cue and I'm sorry I was trying to protect myself by waiting for a email before shipping it.
 
Trent said:
No agreement was broken.

The initial agreement was that if anything went wrong at all to just send the wood back. The wood is in the mail in the form of a very nice cue with a bad Ajoint.

I didn't break anything. Even if I would have dissasembled the cue and mailed the 3 pieces back to him I still would have been following our agreement.

And yes go figure someone making a cue didn't hit a deadline but what he. Isn't saying is there was a problem with a piece of wood in january I believe and he sent me another piece and the cue wasn't started until late jan. And he was updated constantly with pics and informd when I was running behind if he had ever had a problem I would have sent him his wood back no problem.

So many people post on this and all you have is half the story.

The cue is on the way larry, you can post all the pics you wish after you receive it. No pics on my end for this forum. I didntt have time before I left for work.

I've already admitted to the cue being bad, sent it anyway even tho I didn't want to, and been aquesed of selling it, called a theif, been threatened and now pestered online aboput things I didn't say.

I couldn't care less about your wood what the knife industrty does or what ypu do with your new cue larry.

What more do you want from me?

An apology?

I'm sorry I tried to not send you a bad cue, I'm sorry for trying to do you a favor and make you this cue and I'm sorry I was trying to protect myself by waiting for a email before shipping it.
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Trent

Yup you honored your original agreement after you were pestered and coaxed like a child. Good for you. You did the right thing. You assassinated your reputation first, but that's yours to do with as you please.

Kevin
 
Trent said:
No agreement was broken.

The initial agreement was that if anything went wrong at all to just send the wood back. The wood is in the mail in the form of a very nice cue with a bad Ajoint.

I didn't break anything. Even if I would have dissasembled the cue and mailed the 3 pieces back to him I still would have been following our agreement.

And yes go figure someone making a cue didn't hit a deadline but what he. Isn't saying is there was a problem with a piece of wood in january I believe and he sent me another piece and the cue wasn't started until late jan. And he was updated constantly with pics and informd when I was running behind if he had ever had a problem I would have sent him his wood back no problem.

So many people post on this and all you have is half the story.

The cue is on the way larry, you can post all the pics you wish after you receive it. No pics on my end for this forum. I didntt have time before I left for work.

I've already admitted to the cue being bad, sent it anyway even tho I didn't want to, and been aquesed of selling it, called a theif, been threatened and now pestered online aboput things I didn't say.

I couldn't care less about your wood what the knife industrty does or what ypu do with your new cue larry.

What more do you want from me?

An apology?

I'm sorry I tried to not send you a bad cue, I'm sorry for trying to do you a favor and make you this cue and I'm sorry I was trying to protect myself by waiting for a email before shipping it.
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i kinda admire your attempt to make the best cue you can within your capabilities, but..... i think you would benefit from a few customer relations classes.
 
If he did indeed ship the cue, when meridianblades receives the cue this thread should be closed. This whole thing has been ridiculous.
 
From Mr. Wilson.

Part one.

Trent, the thing that I see and even have to smile just a little is that you don't see any comparison to this and all the complaints I have received over time about you harrasing other posters..calling them a thief or other names.
Walking your mile in those shoes is no fun I'm sure...but nobody "did" this to you.

Per that request via reported post, the answer is NO. I will not delete this thread.

Aren't people supposed to do some research first? Deleted threads are problematic to that end.
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prewarhero said:
Since I'm the guy whose ass is in question, for the record I prefer no cue rammed up there- his, mine or otherwise. Then again I could stop my search for a new case.
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I would contact J.B. Cases for that one.
http://www.jbcases.com/casesbyname.html

They have made several cool custom cases for every application.
My favorite was the Palidan case, I have a Mason case, check em out.
I'm sure they could build the Ass case.
 
TRENT didn't send the cue......(as he has stated over and over again)......NO he just sent the butt. There were no shafts in the box

Once a thief and liar........ALWAYS a thief and liar. .
 
meridianblades said:
TRENT didn't send the cue......(as he has stated over and over again)......NO he just sent the butt. There were no shafts in the box

Once a thief and liar........ALWAYS a thief and liar. .
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Somehow, after following all of this, the outcome so far is nto surprising but still disappointing.
 
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