Does anyone have a link to this thread at all? I would love to see it.
It's not THIS one, where they show how to use the Kamui tip tool to rough up a tip, is it???
Triangle vs. Layered Tips...
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Does anyone have a link to this thread at all? I would love to see it.
It's not THIS one, where they show how to use the Kamui tip tool to rough up a tip, is it???
I had more complaints and headaches doing layered tips ...Its just a selling point more then quality, but if you want to have something to talk about at the pool room and how you spent more the the Jones,you can still get the tips with glue in between each layer of leather..triangle is the best tip,last longer,keeps shape and still cost a 1/3 or a morri...just the way it is
I received my South West cue in 2003,they use Triangle tips,since then I have had to replace the tip one time in seven years,still using Triangles.I tried a Tiger Dynamite tip put on another cue and used it for about a year but didn't care for the hit(way to hard)and had it replaced with the original Triangle and the playability returned.
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i am a big fan on triangle tips, i play with nothing else. one really good secret about triangles (and le pros too) that I have learned. get the 15mm ones! not sure exactly why, but they are so much better than the typical 14mm ones. they are thicker and much more consistent from tip to tip. I have heard the 15mm ones are from a different part of the hide and that is why they are better. i also like to give a moderate press to the triangles before installing (i use the picone tip press), it firms up the hit a little.
I normally go about 4months of play before i even have to think about changing my triangle.....i press them before install and never have problems 3mm shoulder lasts along time and never has to reshape.
Thanks Again!
Thanks again for all the info. I'm going to give these Triangles a try again. I was happy with them before, so maybe this is what I'm looking for in a tip after all.
Thanks again for all the info. I'm going to give these Triangles a try again. I was happy with them before, so maybe this is what I'm looking for in a tip after all.
A few different people sell tip presses, Picone has one for $30 plus shipping. I think KJ on here sells them as well.
The advantage of layered tips is they are consistant. If you need a new one, shape it the same as the old one and it's going to play very close to the same. I've yet to find a single layered tip that is consistant from one to the next. It's hit or miss, even with the triangles. If you get a good triangle it will last a long time and play great. But, every single Moori is going to play the same, and play great. So, do you want to have a tip you know will play the same when you get a new one for $25 or $30, or do you want to spend $10 or $15 on one that you will have some adjustment to, or scrap all together? That's your decision.
I install layered tips about 5 to 1 over single layered tips. I let my customers know what I stock, and will tell them the positives and negatives of each tip if they don't know. I let them decide what they want. I could care less which tip they choose. I make the about the same money on every tip, whether that's a triangle, Le Pro, Elk Master, Moori, Wizard, Kamui, ect.
I don't make my money on the tips, I make it on the install.
The advantage of layered tips is they are consistant. If you need a new one, shape it the same as the old one and it's going to play very close to the same. I've yet to find a single layered tip that is consistant from one to the next. It's hit or miss, even with the triangles. If you get a good triangle it will last a long time and play great. But, every single Moori is going to play the same, and play great. So, do you want to have a tip you know will play the same when you get a new one for $25 or $30, or do you want to spend $10 or $15 on one that you will have some adjustment to, or scrap all together? That's your decision.
I install layered tips about 5 to 1 over single layered tips. I let my customers know what I stock, and will tell them the positives and negatives of each tip if they don't know. I let them decide what they want. I could care less which tip they choose. I make the about the same money on every tip, whether that's a triangle, Le Pro, Elk Master, Moori, Wizard, Kamui, ect.
I don't make my money on the tips, I make it on the install.
One other note. I shoot with layered tips mostly. I shoot almost daily. I use a chunk of 220 sandpaper to take the glaze off when needed, which is maybe every few weeks. A lot of players are quick to point at a layered tip for the cause of a miscue, which they can miscue if glazed over, but most of the time it was a bad stroke.
Thanks for the info radge. I have been using LePro and Triangle for years, and just switched to my first layered (Talisman WB Hard) about a week ago.
Significantly harder to shape it, BUT it feels and hits great. It came with a break tip as well, and that thing took me a long time to shape, but it breaks great.
Anyhow, thanks again.
Significantly harder to shape it, BUT it feels and hits great. It came with a break tip as well, and that thing took me a long time to shape, but it breaks great.
Anyhow, thanks again.
I've always been a fan of Triangle tips. The only problem is consistency. It's too hard to find consistently high quality triangles in my experience. That's why I switched to sniper. My next tip will probably be a kamui black medium depending on how this OB classic pro feels with the everest.
How Low Do You Go???
Thanks again to all who replied in this thread.
For those of you using a Triangle tip, how low are you cutting them down?
Also, are any of you using a pad between the tip and ferrule with a NON-IVORY ferrule?
Thanks again!
Thanks again to all who replied in this thread.
For those of you using a Triangle tip, how low are you cutting them down?
Also, are any of you using a pad between the tip and ferrule with a NON-IVORY ferrule?
Thanks again!
I have tried a few of the single layered tips - Le Pro, triangle, talisman WB.
The Le pro is too inconsistant and mushrooms all the time. The triangle is okay but too hard for me and also inconsistant. Finally, the WB is a good tip really hard for me but I put it on a break stick.
Really I would be just fine using the WB tip compared to some of the other layered tips for a break tip.
I guess I use the layered tip because these are more consistant from one to another and because I can get them a little softer. I am not a big fan of hard tips. to change my mind I would need to try someone's triangle tip that was "perfect". Who knows, maybe I will get the 15mm triangle and get it anohter try. It will take a lot for me to switch.
To me there is huge difference, I just can not get a single layer tip to do what a multi-layer tip can. Realistically if I pay $20.00 a year on a tip vs $3.00 so what. As long as I can get a tip I can count on.
The Le pro is too inconsistant and mushrooms all the time. The triangle is okay but too hard for me and also inconsistant. Finally, the WB is a good tip really hard for me but I put it on a break stick.
Really I would be just fine using the WB tip compared to some of the other layered tips for a break tip.
I guess I use the layered tip because these are more consistant from one to another and because I can get them a little softer. I am not a big fan of hard tips. to change my mind I would need to try someone's triangle tip that was "perfect". Who knows, maybe I will get the 15mm triangle and get it anohter try. It will take a lot for me to switch.
To me there is huge difference, I just can not get a single layer tip to do what a multi-layer tip can. Realistically if I pay $20.00 a year on a tip vs $3.00 so what. As long as I can get a tip I can count on.
I would assume it is to minimize the mushrooming and reshaping that comes with the first few hard hits on a new single layer tip. Otherwise, mount it, smack the heck out of some balls to "press it" then re-trim outside to remove mushrooming, reshape tip to your favorite nickel or dime profile, and move on.
High or Low?
Are most of you that use a Triangle (or any other single layered tip, for that matter) cutting them down quite a bit, or is it better to leave them a little higher???
I've heard quite a few people (pros, especially) like a very low tip. I don't mind a *little* extra height on my tip so it will last a bit longer, but is there a big tradeoff in feel leaving it high?
Are most of you that use a Triangle (or any other single layered tip, for that matter) cutting them down quite a bit, or is it better to leave them a little higher???
I've heard quite a few people (pros, especially) like a very low tip. I don't mind a *little* extra height on my tip so it will last a bit longer, but is there a big tradeoff in feel leaving it high?
I cut about 40% of my Triangles off. To me I get a solider hit and much better feed back. I would think (but don't know) that the layered tips have to give a little to the side when side is put on the QB with a medium to hard stroke. Johnnyt