Turning Stone Classic 26 - players list and press release.
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A learning experience
17 years old and finished on Sunday in his first turning stone.
With a video camera set up, Maxim ran drills off on his own for hours until they took the balls away from him.
Why are they so good?
Constant practice.
He said he hopes to be back in January and then on to Derby.
17 years old and finished on Sunday in his first turning stone.
With a video camera set up, Maxim ran drills off on his own for hours until they took the balls away from him.
Why are they so good?
Constant practice.
He said he hopes to be back in January and then on to Derby.
Some stats for this event are now available here: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=434230
You are awesome 110 percent of the time dude.
I think Pat's stats on the breaker having the worst of it in nine ball has to include the old cloth, pre-Joe Tucker learning curve. I didn't watch every match streamed, but on those that I did, I don't recall the winner letting the other player break. Thanks for the stats.
Sounds like you may have heard Pat in the booth on a couple of matches. He was careful to note that the stats he referred to were averages over a large number of players and might not apply to the top guys.
This has come up quite a few times in discussing the stats I post about events. I've said the following more than once:
The percentage of games won by the breaker in pro events is generally in the range of 45% - 65%. It can get much higher than that for the top players near the end of an event when they are dialed in on the break and running out a lot. It can also be influenced by matches involving a strong player and a weak player. A very lopsided match in a winner-breaks format obviously leads to a very high "breaker-won-game" percentage.
Racking templates can also affect this number. If, for example in 9-Ball, the wing ball goes in on the break regularly, the stay-at-table percentage after the break is so high that the breaker has many more opportunities for a B&R game, and that raises the overall winning percentage for the breaker.
Despite the fact that the stats sometimes seem to indicate that it is no great advantage to be breaking, I doubt that many top players would want to give the break to an opponent coming down the stretch in a big event.
Great stuff, Mr Stats
Another reason that pros should not be allowed to play in amateur or dead money tourneys . Pros and ams should be demarcated like in other pro sports like snooker , tennis. Mixing pros with ams muddies the stats . Pros should only play in pro only events
But of cos that requires collective organisation of a pro tour with qualifiers so that only top ranked only 100 or 150 players can play in pro tour like in snooker . Obviously there has to be enough sponsorship prize money to sustain the top 100 players .
If average $50K is enough to sustain a top player, then 100 players is only $5 million per year. I am sure some billionaire like Mark Cuban or some young Silicon Valley billionaire can throw in pocket change few million for global pro tour sponsorship / TV rights
Not sure if you commented further on the return of the Dymondwood tables?
Were the tables @ Turning Stone Dymondwood, and if so, were they just like before?
When I watched the stream this past weekend it looked like they were back, but I thought it was too good to be true, they must be hardwood.
Thanks in advance for your observations
Not sure if you commented further on the return of the Dymondwood tables?
Were the tables @ Turning Stone Dymondwood, and if so, were they just like before?
When I watched the stream this past weekend it looked like they were back, but I thought it was too good to be true, they must be hardwood.
Thanks in advance for your observations
I did ask the diamond table representative about them and unfortunately they are refurbished tables from a Florida pool hall that closed. From turning stone they were being delivered to Florida to be used at the Tornado Open, then sold to another pool hall in Florida.
However, on the good news, he said they now have a supplier for dymondwood and have just been delivered the first pieces to build a new table out of them, so production will begin once again on the classic rosewood color dymondwood diamond table. They also will continue to manufacture the pressed paper black diamond table because of the demand for a black table is still out there.
They never did have a fully black table before the factory fire because the dymondwood would always take the dye differently and never fully black (hence their charcoal and rosewood finishes). But the pressed paper fenolic black rails were developed to keep the tables coming as a new dynondwood supplier was located.
Thanks for the update!
Guess it is progress if they have moved past the "sample" stage and have pieces to make a table, meaning the molds are finished. Hopefully the molds were built to spec and all goes well. Also, if they are building 9 footers first, that would be encouraging, too.
The black pressed paper phenolic have grown on me, but still show too much chalk and fingerprint residue, unlike the dymondwood.
C'mon Diamond, crank them dymondwood tables out soon! Donny at West State will get a call soon after that happens :wink:
