Because you're probably equally shady. That's fine, it's a common thing around here.
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Because you're probably equally shady. That's fine, it's a common thing around here.
No one every goes right to the source, because they are tire kickers. Only serious people pick up the phone and call the source, which is even better than email/text. The rest of us, whine and moan on here and FB
When you want something done, you call the person.
Spot on.
And Mike will give you his phone number if you email him, because he also likes to handle stuff in person.
And I'm sure Mike will give any stranger every private detail over the phone... obviously.
I'm not just shady, i'm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJO5HU_7_1w
Being transparent about shady business ethics doesn't make them more ethical. And reselling the spot you've already sold and keeping the money is a dirty way of doing business. You can tattoo it on your forehead, and put up a million signs, it's still a bad business practice that should be known to the public.
And I agree, if you don't like it, don't play. That's EXACTLY what the original post states as to why I would never play.
Hi, I'm Andrew. Nice to meet you.
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It all comes down to reading what you sign. If u put ur signature on a contract then that's that. No sense in gripping about it late if u can't make. You no what u signed besides business is business and Mike has provided the people with a great tournament for years.
He also gives away a free stream. Do some of you people think he should put in all this work and not benefit from it. Geez. What if 5 people drop out and Mike pockets a 1000 dollars, he deserves it for putting up with crap just like this.
It all goes back to you no what u signed.
It all comes down to reading what you sign. If u put ur signature on a contract then that's that. No sense in gripping about it late if u can't make. You no what u signed besides business is business and Mike has provided the people with a great tournament for years.
He also gives away a free stream. Do some of you people think he should put in all this work and not benefit from it. Geez. What if 5 people drop out and Mike pockets a 1000 dollars, he deserves it for putting up with crap just like this.
It all goes back to you no what u signed.
Apparently til the end-of-time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUvxRjYqjEQ
Do u always no what u signed?
Actually it does. If you are completely transparent, not misleading anyone, and any transactions are completely voluntary on all sides, then it isn't shady or unethical. That doesn't mean you will like or agree with every term of the deals they offer, but it does mean that it isn't shady. Complete openness and honesty with people that are under no pressure, obligation, or coercion whatsoever to do business with you is never shady and is in fact the complete and exact opposite of shady.
If it is tattooed on your forehead, or on a million signs, or otherwise made completely public, then there is no reason to need to make it known to the public because, you guessed it, it was already completely public. If you are honest with yourself, your point wasn't to make public what is already completely public since Mike already goes out of his way to make it completely public to everyone. Your point was just to give your opinion about something everybody was already aware of, or at least would be if they made themselves aware of the terms of tournament like they have a responsibility to do before signing up. Your opinion has been duly noted by everyone.
Your point was simply to give your opinion about disliking his policy. Nothing more, nothing less. You did that. Keep it honest though. His policy isn't hidden or shady, it's just a highly publicized policy that you don't happen to like.
I you don't that's your problem. Always.
Don't ever buy a used car. Those guys live for people like you.
I wonder when the shoe will drop and he says, never mind, just kidding, like the curve bank thread with Bob and Dr. Dave.
In the meantime Mike Z has been slammed on the forum and in a deleted post someone threatened him with violence (putting billiard balls in a sock and slamming him in the head).
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Well said. Couldn't be more clear if you tried.
I fly Delta all the time. A few weeks ago I needed to travel from Albany to Buffalo. There were no direct flights so I had to route through DC... and my connecting flight in DC to Buffalo got cancelled. So, I had to stay in DC for the night. I had already booked a flight from Buffalo to Austin, TX for the next evening (which I wasn't going to get to) or even make it to Buffalo at all because of timing. So, I flew straight from DC to Austin. Long story short, the flight I had already booked from Buffalo to Austin, I wasn't going to make. It was also non refundable.
Once I returned home, I called Delta and explained what happened. They gave me a credit for the non refundable flight. Didn't have to argue, didn't have to beg. Just told them what happened and like any business that wants the customers to be happy, issued me a credit. They also offered to pay for the hotel if I filled out some paperwork, which I never did. It was nice of them though.
It's not hidden from the players who sign up, though probably not generally known to the average pool fan or viewer of his tournament stream. I'm sure more people know about it now than before. It is however shady. You don't have to agree.. I don't care. Morals differ from person to person. I guess I have higher standards.
The difference is that most states have a law requiring compensation to the consumer when they are unable to fulfill the contract.
Ticketmaster would do the same for those Justin Bieber tickets you bought, if the Biebs cancels that show you've been waiting for.
If you don't see the difference, you are mentally challenged.
You think you are on a high-horse, but you are riding a jackass.
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