Oh yeah, it really originated because of a claim Earl made that he could beat anyone on a table having no side pockets as it represented a truer test of cueing skills. Darren schooled him.
U.S. Open Events Won by Shane Van Boening
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Could be a psyche. More often that not, people playing like that find errors more annoying than dirty looks. Few players have prepared a step on the gas delivery.
I'm guessing not. Roland Garcia reminds me of Warren Kiamco, a guy who also played very slowly but usually ended up playing the right shot. Like Warren, Roland is a very tough opponent.
That was a weird challenge match. Yes it was a Diamond table with no side pockets; corners were 4 1/4". Appleton beat Strickland 6 to 1 in 10-Ball races to 9. Successful breaks were just 27%, and break-and-run games numbered 1 in 107 games played.
Break Stats -- 4-Pocket 10-Ball Challenge, Appleton vs. Strickland, May 2016
Here are some results from the Darren Appleton vs. Earl Strickland 4-Pocket 10-Ball Challenge played the past 3 days at Kings of Billiards in Akron, Ohio. Pay-per-view streaming was provided by AZBtv. This was a race to 6 sets, with each set...
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Monday morning it, Appleton does have more pattern functionality. Whatever that means...
i don't know the root of it. i don't think it's gamesmanship. i played a guy with a 720ish fargo in a weekly tournament that kept doing that and removing his shoes, playing some racks barefoot. totally neurotic perfectionist. after the match i was pissed off but was told by his friends that it's OCD not gamesmanship.
still the worst kind of slow.
I wanna cite Pinegar but can't peg his motivation. I'd call incompetence at pro paced games even though that woould be moot every time he takes it down. Quite often too I hear. lol.
Darren's best came in 2012-15. I'm guessing this was a bit more recent than that, perhaps 2017 or so.
Orcollo does the same thing. I think it comes down to all of the players mentioned don't shoot until they are 100% ready. Something feels off and they get back up and start over which is what we should all do but I know I don't.
That's a joke that SJM isn't calling out Shane. I came here to see the hateraide that always gets slung Shane's way when he proves once again why he's the best modern era player and continues to make an argument as to why he may become the goat and SJM was one of the names I expected to downplay the dominance that Shane just showed.
3 out of 4 events he went undefeated with many of the best players in those disciplines playing, but even with that, you won't see the haters just say "good job Shane". No, they HAVE to down play it and diminish the accomplishment. It's frickin' funny at this point because, I can name 3 or 4 names right now that will somehow diminish the next accomplishment of the next major Shane wins.
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3 out of 4 events he went undefeated with many of the best players in those disciplines playing, but even with that, you won't see the haters just say "good job Shane". No, they HAVE to down play it and diminish the accomplishment. It's frickin' funny at this point because, I can name 3 or 4 names right now that will somehow diminish the next accomplishment of the next major Shane wins.
Jaden
I would say that most of the best players were missing from the one pocket and banks at least. No gorst, pagulayan, frost, filler, orcollo, gomez etc. His main competition was Chohan who he beat for the hot seat. Decent fields but far from the best of the best attended. I don't see them as being majors until everyone who can win shows up which hasnt been the case.
I said many years ago that I didn't think SVB would win the US Open 9 ball again because all of the best from all over the world started coming. He hasn't won it since 2016. He was a pretty solid favorite until then. Now there isn't a clear favorite. A dozen or more players can realistically win it.
1P: 31 Players, 30% of the field had a 760+ Fargo
Banks: 35 Players, 37% of the field had a 760+ Fargo
10B: 63 Players, 50% of the field had a 760+ Fargo
It's pretty strong to win those events back to back to back in a 2 week period.
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Shane went undefeated in those 3 events; see post #29 above. He finished out of the money in 8-Ball, losing to Ouschan 7-8 and Garcia 6-8.
My mistake.
Curious why you picked 760+. Shane is close to 80 points higher than that. What percentage were 800+ excluding Shane?
From the player data on the DigitalPool website, the 800s (excluding SVB) entered in the 4 US Open events over the past 2 weeks were:
10-Ball -- 13 of 62 (21%)
8-Ball -- 11 of 49 (22%)
Banks -- 4 of 34 (12%)
1-Pkt. -- 3 of 30 (10%)
ok, yea he's an exception from what i've seen and heard. gamesmanship doesn't seem to be beyond him, but it's obviously also a big slew of OCD with the chalking ritual thing
he has different gears. in rotation he can be very fast and entertaining