That young fellow reminds me of a young Tramp Steamer. All except the pool playing, that is. What a talent.
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perfect stroke, beautiful
leinen, thanks for the reply. Looks like you were the man for the job to answer that question.
I've always been curious about the four point contact bit, heard it referenced in a few videos. It almost sounds like almost all snooker pros are taught the same fundamentals, which would be nice to standardize in the usa. Do you think the four points can work for pool?
I've always been curious about the four point contact bit, heard it referenced in a few videos. It almost sounds like almost all snooker pros are taught the same fundamentals, which would be nice to standardize in the usa. Do you think the four points can work for pool?
Geeezzzzeeee!!!! He plays good! And that table rolls great! Wish I had time to develop me game like that! Maybe after I get done with College......someday! LOL
This kid is doomed then!
I can go even further than leinen and tell you this: Where I live (let's just say "Europe"), almost no pool player I know knows about any pivot system. This seems to be an american thing. When I asked my clubmates if they've heard or read anything about CTE, 90/90, 3-line, whatever, they only wondered if I spent too much time on teh interwebz.
Although last year some people seem to have "discovered" BHE. Well, they merely watched a youtube video and translated it. Still most players here don't know what BHE is, and if they know they usually don't care. But suddenly all the good players supposedly use this BHE as an "exact system". That's what believers will tell you. It also seems, they didn't understand every detail of it and are not teaching it properly. This is the reason I created an account here at azbilliards to find out more about BHE only to be overwhelmed by all sorts of secret systems. It's almost ridiculous.
As for the 4-point contact: I started using this stance a while ago, and it has helped me a lot. I don't see any disadvantages except with the break shot.
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Dude needs to get a pocket chalker. He could shave 20 seconds, easily.
Thanks for the input sniper. A quick question (I should just google this but I like to see AZB people talk about this)... what are the four points?
Sometimes when I shoot I notice the cue sliding across my chest and let it, it feels almost like it can stabilize it. Is that one of the points? I'm guessing chin is another, you see guys like higgins keep the chin on it throughout the entire stroke.
Sometimes when I shoot I notice the cue sliding across my chest and let it, it feels almost like it can stabilize it. Is that one of the points? I'm guessing chin is another, you see guys like higgins keep the chin on it throughout the entire stroke.
The kid is amazing, a snooker wunderkind! Ronnie O'Sullivan better watch out, someone may be breathing down his neck soon. Very little conscious thought processes go into his shooting. It's all quick and instinctive. He sees the pocket, feels the shot and fires away.
Did anyone else notice that his stance and stroke is much more "American" style than most snooker players? He does not stand so square at the table with both legs perpendicular to the cue. He puts one foot forward like a pool player.
He got me when he took one look at the long black into the corner and cut it in like it had eyes. And switching to his left hand without a seconds hesitation either. That was a regular 6x12 snooker table and those pockets weren't buckets either. This kid is the real deal, IF he continues with the game.
Did anyone else notice that his stance and stroke is much more "American" style than most snooker players? He does not stand so square at the table with both legs perpendicular to the cue. He puts one foot forward like a pool player.
He got me when he took one look at the long black into the corner and cut it in like it had eyes. And switching to his left hand without a seconds hesitation either. That was a regular 6x12 snooker table and those pockets weren't buckets either. This kid is the real deal, IF he continues with the game.
Info about the 4-point contact
CreeDo-mon:
Apologies I'm seeing this only now -- been so busy with that "distraction" called work that I lost touch with a lot of the AZB threads. But perhaps that's a good thing -- this whole CTE/aiming-thread topic being a good example. What a sinkhole of time!
Anyway, to answer your question about the 4-point-contact thing, here's a great video by the Master Snooker Coach himself, Del Hill:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gSK4w_9S_x0
By the way, the 4-point contact does NOT interfere with a proper pendulum stroke, when you make a small modification. Many snooker players drop the elbow to keep the cue in-line like a piston, but that's not necessary. What you're looking for with the chest contact (contact point #2 starting from back by the grip hand) is to prevent side-to-side "waggle" or "yaw" of the cue. In this case, you can use the side of your pectoral muscle (not necessary the front of the pectoral muscle, which the top of your cue would rub and push onto if you're using a true pendulum stroke). When using a true pendulum stroke, it's ok that the contact point (against the side of the pectoral muscle, remember) shifts up and down during the stroke -- if you're pinning your elbow for a proper pendulum stroke, that is. The idea is that the chest contact doesn't impede the natural up/down motion of the cue during a natural pendulum stroke; rather, it's to prevent any sideways yaw/waggle/hitch during the stroke.
Let me know if you have any questions.
-Sean
CreeDo-mon:
Apologies I'm seeing this only now -- been so busy with that "distraction" called work that I lost touch with a lot of the AZB threads. But perhaps that's a good thing -- this whole CTE/aiming-thread topic being a good example. What a sinkhole of time!
Anyway, to answer your question about the 4-point-contact thing, here's a great video by the Master Snooker Coach himself, Del Hill:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gSK4w_9S_x0
By the way, the 4-point contact does NOT interfere with a proper pendulum stroke, when you make a small modification. Many snooker players drop the elbow to keep the cue in-line like a piston, but that's not necessary. What you're looking for with the chest contact (contact point #2 starting from back by the grip hand) is to prevent side-to-side "waggle" or "yaw" of the cue. In this case, you can use the side of your pectoral muscle (not necessary the front of the pectoral muscle, which the top of your cue would rub and push onto if you're using a true pendulum stroke). When using a true pendulum stroke, it's ok that the contact point (against the side of the pectoral muscle, remember) shifts up and down during the stroke -- if you're pinning your elbow for a proper pendulum stroke, that is. The idea is that the chest contact doesn't impede the natural up/down motion of the cue during a natural pendulum stroke; rather, it's to prevent any sideways yaw/waggle/hitch during the stroke.
Let me know if you have any questions.
-Sean
thats not even right...i dont wanna play no more...
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Luca Brecel at 15 has become the youngest ever Belgian national champion.
Brecel defeated Bjorn Haneveer, who reached the last 32 of last season's China Open, 7-4 in the final.
He compiled a 136 total clearance to win the third frame and won the last having needed three snookers with five reds remaining.
Remarkably, Brecel had only started using a new cue last week.
Brecel, who won the European under 19 title last year, will represent his country in the European amateur championship in Bucharest later this week.
He is eligible to turn professional next year.
Luca Brecel at 15 has become the youngest ever Belgian national champion.
Brecel defeated Bjorn Haneveer, who reached the last 32 of last season's China Open, 7-4 in the final.
He compiled a 136 total clearance to win the third frame and won the last having needed three snookers with five reds remaining.
Remarkably, Brecel had only started using a new cue last week.
Brecel, who won the European under 19 title last year, will represent his country in the European amateur championship in Bucharest later this week.
He is eligible to turn professional next year.
That boy is sick. Crazy fast and sick. Wow.