Unreal stroke shots

bruin70 said:
i edited my post. the more i thought about it, IT CAN BE DONE. and i think a good 3 cushion player can do it,,,even on a non billiard table. they're more well versed in dealing with spin:speed ratio on the cb.
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I don't know about that man...I'd have to see it to believe it. I can almost do the second draw shot I described (on 860) and I can't come close on this one. I was trying to shoot it soft..

Then again you never know...I didn't think it was possible to make a spot shot without hitting a rail either.

good luck with it though :)

peace
-Egg
 
Egg McDogit said:
I don't know about that man...I'd have to see it to believe it. I can almost do the second draw shot I described (on 860) and I can't come close on this one. I was trying to shoot it soft..

Then again you never know...I didn't think it was possible to make a spot shot without hitting a rail either.

good luck with it though :)

peace
-Egg
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i sent the shot to a 3 cushion friendof mine. he can assess,,,maybe someone like sayginer can do it,,,,he could bring the cb closer to the rail.
 
Egg McDogit said:
I don't know about that man...I'd have to see it to believe it. I can almost do the second draw shot I described (on 860) and I can't come close on this one. I was trying to shoot it soft..

Then again you never know...I didn't think it was possible to make a spot shot without hitting a rail either.

good luck with it though :)

peace
-Egg
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from a very good 3 cushion player of some note here in NYC,,,,well respected , and whose opinion i trust. i sent him a diagram of two shots posted here, and this is his reply on the spot draw shot....

"Yes it is. But you need to be quite jacked up, put a lot of right (in this case) and the cue will jump a lot.

I saw Semih Sayginer shoot a very similiar shot against Jeanette in an exhibition pool match in Atlanta Georgia. It was Jeanette/Blomdahl vs. Thornfeldt?/Sayginer (teams) 9-ball exhibition game. He jacked up almost vertical and jumped the cue ball with extreme english and draw...."
 
> On cutting in a spot shot and drawing back past the side pocket before contacting a rail,I thought the same thing,go ahead and rob me. Smokey Bartlett was in my area for a few months back 7-8 years ago,and I bet I saw him win well in excess of 3000,betting 100 a pop on this shot,and would even let you pick which side of the table he shot it from,and moved the cue ball out 1 diamond from the side rail on either side. I lost 200 on this shot,once on each side,he said it was a combination of both speed and spin,along with a slightly bouncing cue ball,"pinching" the spot ball by slightly landing on top of it, He was hitting it with severe inside english,and about 35 degrees of elevation. Smokey had more proposition shots than Imelda Marcos has shoes. Another he won several hundred on was shot 2B in Kinister's 60 Minute workout. Cue ball in jaws of corner pocket,object ball 7 diamonds away,pocket the ball and draw back to scratch. He did it 11 times in a row,ONE HANDED! Tommy D.
 
Tommy-D said:
> On cutting in a spot shot and drawing back past the side pocket before contacting a rail,I thought the same thing,go ahead and rob me. Smokey Bartlett was in my area for a few months back 7-8 years ago,and I bet I saw him win well in excess of 3000,betting 100 a pop on this shot,and would even let you pick which side of the table he shot it from,and moved the cue ball out 1 diamond from the side rail on either side. I lost 200 on this shot,once on each side,he said it was a combination of both speed and spin,along with a slightly bouncing cue ball,"pinching" the spot ball by slightly landing on top of it, He was hitting it with severe inside english,and about 35 degrees of elevation. Smokey had more proposition shots than Imelda Marcos has shoes. Another he won several hundred on was shot 2B in Kinister's 60 Minute workout. Cue ball in jaws of corner pocket,object ball 7 diamonds away,pocket the ball and draw back to scratch. He did it 11 times in a row,ONE HANDED! Tommy D.
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Wow, Tommy, eleven in a row, that must have been memorable. Smokey must have a very large arsenal oof shots , for I know Imelda has loads of shoes.
 
Tommy-D said:
> On cutting in a spot shot and drawing back past the side pocket .
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If you are talking about the spot shot, drawing to the side rail and then past the opposite side pocket; that is quite a feat (I've scratched once in the side, but have never gotten past it and pocketed the ball). A friend has seen George Breedlove make the shot several times one-handed, jacked up (cue not resting on anything). On one occasion he drew it with enough power (one-handed) to get past the side pocket and then almost back to the head rail. Some people have too much time on their hands.
 
thanks for the responses on the shot...I guess it is possible after all lol. I'm gonna have to try it out tomorrow

peace
-Egg
 
sjm said:
Smokey must have a very large arsenal oof shots , for I know Imelda has loads of shoes.
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I played in a tourney in College Station, Texas, and Smokey was there. He drove up on a brand new Lotus Esprit turbo. Rumor had it that he won it playing pool...

He could jump a ball 1 chalk away. He would shoot two separate jump shots at the same time, one with each hand, jumping over two balls 1 chalk away, and pocketing two balls in the side. Talk about a jaw dropper.

-td
 
Williebetmore said:
If you are talking about the spot shot, drawing to the side rail and then past the opposite side pocket; that is quite a feat (I've scratched once in the side, but have never gotten past it and pocketed the ball). A friend has seen George Breedlove make the shot several times one-handed, jacked up (cue not resting on anything). On one occasion he drew it with enough power (one-handed) to get past the side pocket and then almost back to the head rail. Some people have too much time on their hands.
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No, I was talking about drawing past the side pocket WITHOUT hitting a rail. I just don't think it can be done.
 
Vonn31 said:
Somebody's gonna have to take my money on this one. I'll give ya 35 tries for $600.00 (with a regulation cue ball and object ball)
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A good stroke right through should get you there.
 
> He was making the spot shot,and drawing it straight back uptable,before it hit a rail. The bet was you won if it hit ANYTHING before the side pocket,here is the shot.


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> Out of 50 tries,I honestly don't remember seeing him miss this more than 3-4 times. Tommy D.
 
Not the stoke of some of the other examples I'm seeing here, but this was a good one for me. Good enough to have the game conceded after shooting it. Was about 3 or 4 months ago against Dick Magaro.

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Sitting here looking at this I'm wondering why I didn't play soft and try the combo. Maybe my memory is failing. This was what I did with the cue ball, but I think the 9 and 8 must be off some. I know the 9 had the 8 blocked from the corner pocket.
 
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Tommy-D said:
> He was making the spot shot,and drawing it straight back uptable,before it hit a rail. The bet was you won if it hit ANYTHING before the side pocket,here is the shot.


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> Out of 50 tries,I honestly don't remember seeing him miss this more than 3-4 times. Tommy D.
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Tommy D,
WOW!! I've seen numbers of pro's fail to get it past the side pocket even drawing to a rail first. Are you sure you've seen this?? I'm with Vonn31, I'm skeptical that this is possible on a 9 ft. table. Where can we see someone do this (it would be worth a small wager just to see it done)?
 
Ok, this is not some extreme spin, I'd say it's more of a controlled hard draw shot. I made this shot in a Finnish ranking event, I made 1-ball from the break and shot the following shot on the 2-ball to get position for the 3-ball as all the balls were blocking the natural position play routes. I couldn't shoot with maximum amount of draw because I would have hit the 6 or the 7, I just hit it with a very hard stroke and just a right amount of draw to bend the cueball to miss the 4-ball. A definite crowd-pleaser, eh ?

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Nice shot MJantti!!

Here is one by George Breedlove at DCC (I think against Korsiak or Takenaka). George was about a quarter to half inch off the rail, but still decided on an offensive shot - jacked up, power draw, to an exceedingly small target. Of interest, he was behind in the match when this shot came up. Shot made, rack run, several racks later George was the winner - very aggressive player.
 

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Alright let's get a pool started here! I'll chip in the
first $10 (via paypal) for the person who can make the
2 shots I described. A couple other people said they'd pay
to see it, so chip in a few bucks and let's try to make it
worth the time for someone to show it to us. Maybe someone
else wants to add an additional shot to the list and up
the $$$?

For now here's what we got:
Shot #1: move cb past side pocket on spot shot w/o hitting a rail:
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Shot #2: obj ball #1 along spot line, cue ball in the kitchen,
obj ball #2 by corner pocket. Drain obj ball #1, draw back
to back rail - cue ball rebounds up table to sink the ball
near the pocket. (you aren't allowed to jack up)
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To get the money, you gotta videotape yourself making both
shots. Hold up a sign with your nick, or say it if you can
record with sound. Let's get the pool going here! People
lose hundreds on these shots so chipping in a few bucks is
a bargain.

peace
-Egg
 
Shot #2: obj ball #1 along spot line, cue ball in the kitchen,
obj ball #2 by corner pocket. Drain obj ball #1, draw back
to back rail - cue ball rebounds up table to sink the ball
near the pocket. (you aren't allowed to jack up)
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I think I could make that. I'll let ya know this weekend.
 
Vonn31 said:
Shot #2: obj ball #1 along spot line, cue ball in the kitchen,
obj ball #2 by corner pocket. Drain obj ball #1, draw back
to back rail - cue ball rebounds up table to sink the ball
near the pocket. (you aren't allowed to jack up)
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I think I could make that. I'll let ya know this weekend.
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...
Hehe I've gotten close but can't quite get there. We've
got 860 over here...I haven't gotten a chance to try it on
760 yet. Even on 760 tho, I think it'd take a helluva stroke
and a couple tries to pull it off...although I definitely
think it can be done.
 
> There are about 30 people in Jackson,Tn that saw him do this time and time again on the 8 foot Steepletons with Simonis,there are no 9 footers within a 2 hour drive. As far as jumping balls,Smokey was the first one I ever saw jump a ball with just a shaft,from as close as the thickness of a doubled over 10 dollar bill. The cue ball landed maybe 3 inches on the other side of the object ball. While he was here,about 8 people went out and bought jump cues,tired of having to take what looked like an impossible jump after he rolled out to it,and knowing he would make it and run out if you passed it back. Tommy D.
 
Here's a shot I would like to see...

We all know the 3 rail track that runs corner pocket to neighbouring corner pocket.

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The shot is: pocket a ball into one corner and draw around 3 rails to pocket a ball in the other corner.
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There are probably a few people here who can do it - I've tried this many times on a 5x10 snooker table with slow cloth and could never get more than a foot off the 3rd rail. I am fairly tall and for some reason my stroke gets messed up when i play on the 5" or so lower 9' tables so when I try the same thing on a 9' I jump the ball off the table :)
 
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