Update on the Des Moines pool scene

Hey Mike, I play Shawn Putnum Next,,,, Geno

So maybe it’s time to let the old thread die, those of us who followed it know exactly what that thread is anyways….What’s Up Iowa?!?

I won’t begin to chronicle the action as of late in full simply because there have been a lot of games and no way I can do the stories of each one justice in a short post. There has been quite a bit of action in town here in the good old Des Moines aka Dirty Money(drunk girl kept callin it Dirty Money and it was hilarious trust me). I personally haven’t been playing in too many big sets, just casual $50-$100 stuff with guys I’d play for free as long as they were drinking with me ;-). A buddy of mine here, who I have been backing has been playing really well(maybe a little over his actual level) and has won some pretty tough sets. He scares me to death while he is playing but he shoots straighter than Dirty Harry when he’s on. Good dude.

Apparently lots(maybe 3 people) of folks enjoy reading some of my posts and it keeps them updated on the local pool scene especially as it gets warmer and people stop playing. Apparently golf and fishing are huge in town, they even have leagues. So there has been plenty going on recently most of people have stopped by the pool room to check out the good sets, hug the rail, and have something to talk about which is a cool thing. Another guy in town wants to video some of the good match ups and get them on you tube so look out for that, we have some footage from yesterday to show, I’ll post when it is uploaded. Maybe Big Dogs will have a stream by the end of this year, we’ll see though.

So how do I personally feel after a couple full months. Not quite the same but still the same about most of the same people. I think I’ve made some pretty good friends so I’m thankful as always for that kind of thing. Yesterday was really draining and I’m dragging today. I backed a top player in town for $2k against another top player. My guy somehow was an underdog but I just couldn’t see how that was possible. I was going to take some rail bets but it was all one sided totally against my player and I don’t think I would have had enough cash on me to post up all the side action so I just decided it best not to do the rail. In the process of trying to get me to open the rail the guys failed to realize there was a millionaire two feet away from me that liked my guy, a younger fella who would have bet up to $1k and another guy that had $300. It was all focused and directed at me so in a way they missed out and getting that sweat they were looking for. Long story short the set goes totally backwards from what the line on the game is. My guy is one of the top bar table players around and couldn’t get anything significant going and never lead any games on the barbox in either of the two sets. In fact one 7 ahead set was done 9-2 with my guy the loser. To the other guys credit he overpowered the table and made that Diamond look loooossseeee. Then on the big table where my guy is supposedly an underdog he wins two 7 ahead sets in a combined time of 2 and a half hours including winning 1 set 8-1 and not missing a ball. That was very strong. So what’s the verdict after the match? My guy is certainly not an underdog anymore(not that he ever truly was IMO). The set is over but it probably isn’t settled….outside of the first set it was a pretty sick match I think everyone there had a good time.

Of course after breaking even and putting my girl through about 7 hours in the pool room I think I’m headed home, but of course I get baited into more action. For me to get baited the pot has to be pretty sweet or I’d just have soon called it a night. I was backing a guy for $1000 against another guy who was putting up $1500(yes 3-2 on the dough, but not really) and giving my guy 9-7 in a 5 ahead match of one hole. My guy plays good one pocket, not world beater but most people respect his game to an extent and the other guy is arguably the best one pocket player in town and definitely in the top 3 for sure. I still like my end since I’m getting spotted and odds on the money so after a lot of shit talking and arguing and a million texts we have action. The reason they put up $1500 is because the player going against me owed me $500 and I was freezing him out of action until the debt was paid but I’m sick enough to bet to win money that I was already owed. If you look at it from that perspective I was an idiot because if you owe $500 and you bet it and win, youre even but if you lose you only paid $500 hmmm I’m pretty sick sometimes so I rolled the dice. My guy wins the first set of 5 ahead 7-2 and we take off the cash and I think it’s over because its after midnight and I told them before the set I was only putting one set up not two. Anyway I’m no thief so I literally take my guy outside that won(he wanted to quit) I tell him when or lose the next set I’ll give him some money and I get him to start playing again. The whole time people are saying crap like I’m a nit(you’re right nits put $4k worth of bets in action on a Monday), they say I’m happy to get lucky and finally win(only been on the losing side of 1 match and it was only a $700 hit), and several more BS things and they don’t even realize I’m doing everything possible to keep the game going. The other guy ran his mouth so much to my guy that my guy didn’t think the hassle was worth it anymore. Anyways we get back inside and I say ok same bet same game it’s on again. Well they of course want to bet $1500 on the next set because they’re stuck $1500 for the last 2 mins, I was stuck the $500 I was owed for 2 months so no way in hell I put that back in action with that dude. So we finally agree to play for $1000 and I’m a nit eventhough I agreed to back a game for the money a guy owes that wasn’t double or nothing it was the same to nothing lol that’s the best deal in the world right. Imagine you lose money and then have to play again and if you win you only get paid what you are owed but if you lose the debt is washed lol. Anyways the next set is going back and forth, it ends with my guy up 1 game and we will continue it at around 4PM today. I fully expect my guy to take it off again, he doesn’t have to win but he’s got the game to get there if he plays right.

Hopefully I get home early enough to install my TV that’s been sitting in the box in my living room for 3 days because I’ve been living the pool hall. PEACEEE!

Hi there Mike,

I almost let it slip away. I dogged it 3 times when I was on 9. Let him get to 10 and then I ran out and broke and ran out.
The only time you can practice with this kind of pressure is when your there. I grew alot in that last match. Hopefully it will help me with the next few or so.

Thanks for the warning That guy could play Geno............
 
No prob Geno, the Open is my favorite event. I'm into it pretty deep right now. I got a couple good friends there that are texting me about once an hour just to tell me BS. You are playing real good, keep it up!

Right now I'm debating on betting a lot on Parica over Boyes...decisions decisions!
 
So....when are we gona have a 1pk tournament? I'm sure there would be enough people to make it interesting....

It would be like 8 guys. and my team would be most of it. Then Don M would win.

Although if you could get Dean and Flip to play it would be fun atleast.
 
Dennis Haar might get there against Darryl Peach, he's up 9-8 right now. Be a big win for a guy not well known. He used to play in all the tourneys around NC,SC,and VA though. Really solid player bout to take off a world champion.

Folan almost got Immonen in what would have been a minor upset.

The Open is such a good tournament.
 
One Pocket Tournament:

There is interest there. We probably have 30+ people who play one hole. I think the handicapping ruined the tournament the last time they tried to have them.


Oh, and I think the Iowa Olympics for pool is a great idea. We could have about 4 or 5 events over a long weekend. Maybe make it bar table 8 ball/10 ball and big table 9 ball/one hole.(can we have a one handed event?) :cool:
 
What's wrong with accustats? Why would they not be showing Earl and Lee Van...Ralf is a technician, I get that but damnit I dont wanna see him and stevie...when will the big events figure out they need to stream more than 1 table.

Sidenote, this new Diamond Table is the nuts! Beautiful table and plays like a pool table.
 
One Pocket Tournament:

There is interest there. We probably have 30+ people who play one hole. I think the handicapping ruined the tournament the last time they tried to have them.

How did they try to handicap? I would think that one pocket would be easier than most to handicap?

I like the Iowa Olympics notion as well. Open to only bona fide Iowans? Gotta know the state tree and bird to get in??:grin-square:
 
How did they try to handicap? I would think that one pocket would be easier than most to handicap?

I like the Iowa Olympics notion as well. Open to only bona fide Iowans? Gotta know the state tree and bird to get in??:grin-square:


Basically they just went, ok you give people 10-6. You play 9-7 and so on.

I have said for a couple years it would be nice to set something up. Sadly it takes added money from somewhere. Big Dog's dont like adding large sums of money. Like the $1,000 they added and Athens got 92 people there for a tournament. Marc was yelling at Athens telling him they were losing money. -- if you didn't notice that was the last large tournament in DSM.
 
Good luck with a local 1 Pkt tourney. There would be a ton of red tape to cut with getting one of those to work. I probably would come donate.
 
Basically they just went, ok you give people 10-6. You play 9-7 and so on.

I have said for a couple years it would be nice to set something up. Sadly it takes added money from somewhere. Big Dog's dont like adding large sums of money. Like the $1,000 they added and Athens got 92 people there for a tournament. Marc was yelling at Athens telling him they were losing money. -- if you didn't notice that was the last large tournament in DSM.

The math surrounding pool tournaments and added money is always an enigma. I guess I don't see how getting 92 people there would be a bad thing. I think I remember that tournament but it was a LONG time ago. It would seem that it would enhance the till considerably, but what do I know??

I was thinking on one-pocket, everyone starts as an even match and then adjust from there? I would guess it wouldn't be hard to do or to design a handicapping program based on past performance. I guess with the multiple combinations of handicapping 1-hole, i thought it would be easier to adjust.

JMO
 
Basically they just went, ok you give people 10-6. You play 9-7 and so on.

I have said for a couple years it would be nice to set something up. Sadly it takes added money from somewhere. Big Dog's dont like adding large sums of money. Like the $1,000 they added and Athens got 92 people there for a tournament. Marc was yelling at Athens telling him they were losing money. -- if you didn't notice that was the last large tournament in DSM.

The one memorial tournament I won for one of the co-owners was 500.00 added. Forget the number of entries. They ended up adding zilch. Nice touch.
 
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