My advice to Matchroom would be to drop that last spot for $750 each. That's $24,000 they could spread out above, enhancing those payouts. Paying 96 out of 256 is fine imo. You can win two matches and make the money.
US OPEN 9 Ball payouts?!?
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My advice to Matchroom would be to drop that last spot for $750 each. That's $24,000 they could spread out above, enhancing those payouts. Paying 96 out of 256 is fine imo. You can win two matches and make the money.
On the other hand, they had nearly every top player and a waiting list at 256 with the current payouts. Maybe there will be more added money next year, but as long as they are charging $1000 to enter, it's nice to give everyone some hope of a good prize.
Bob, they got all those entries before any prize money was posted.
The prize fund total was announced in March of 2018:
http://www.matchroompool.com/news/matchroom-multi-sport-acquires-us-open-9-ball-championship/
Here is a paragraph from that news release of March 22, 2018:
Matchroom are looking to stage the next US Open in April 2019 at a major venue in Las Vegas which means that there will be no Open this year. The event would maintain it’s $1,000 entry fee although the long-term goal will be to reduce that figure down to zero. In addition, all living previous champions will be offered a spot with no entry fee applicable. The prize-fund would be set at a guaranteed $300,000, the biggest ever for the event.
Are you saying the field was full before then?
Looks and sounds like it was the place to be for the player(s), seems like if all are good
with the rules they’ll be back.
For the advertiser’s, the purse contributors into the futures; are the paying gate,
attendance numbers and such available? I’d seen somewhere that the daily attendance
was in 500 – 700 range?
As a spectator, would like a format where the bulk of the field, maybe 2/3’s,
are still in the game playing their positions for a move deeper into the money on the last day.
with the rules they’ll be back.
For the advertiser’s, the purse contributors into the futures; are the paying gate,
attendance numbers and such available? I’d seen somewhere that the daily attendance
was in 500 – 700 range?
As a spectator, would like a format where the bulk of the field, maybe 2/3’s,
are still in the game playing their positions for a move deeper into the money on the last day.
I estimated that there were 600 seats for the last three days. I believe the seats were never more than 2/3 full. I think that's about what Matchroom expected the first year.
As for having 150 players still in action the last three days, that seems impossible with the current format. For TV, one single match at a time is sufficient and probably best. The format provided 15 (or maybe 14, sorry Wang) good matches in a row. The first three days was nice for the players and spectators who were there but were irrelevant to the majority of the TV audience.
The TV audience pays the bills.
The 32 tables for the first phase were gone by the fourth day at noon, I believe. The hotel liked that. So did Matchroom because tables in action require staff. I think there were 30-40 uniformed ushers during the first three days, and probably 20 or so during the final three days.
I think US Open is Matchroom first foray into big field individual event (since their World 9 ball events a decade ago) and their hits recently were team events MC and WCOP so they tread cautiously on the US Open this year.
But with them generously dishing out $200K + in prize money and players expenses for their other events , and assuming US Open is a financial success for them , I expect they will zeroise $1000 entry fee for US Open for players who qualify based on ranking or merit and also increase prize money. They could make it free for top 128 players and increase winner cheque to $100K
World Pool Masters $100K prizemoney+ no entry fee +travel/ accommodation paid for 32 players.
World Cup of Pool
$250K prizemoney +no entry fee +travel/ accommodation paid for 64 players).
Mosconi Cup $30K per winner player+$15K per losing player=$225K
+ no entry fee +travel/ accommodation paid for 10 players , 2 coaches and team support
Yes,they have increased payout for MC from $20K for winning player to $30K. Pretty generous and sign of even better things to come from Matchroom. Awesome :thumbup:
But with them generously dishing out $200K + in prize money and players expenses for their other events , and assuming US Open is a financial success for them , I expect they will zeroise $1000 entry fee for US Open for players who qualify based on ranking or merit and also increase prize money. They could make it free for top 128 players and increase winner cheque to $100K
World Pool Masters $100K prizemoney+ no entry fee +travel/ accommodation paid for 32 players.
World Cup of Pool
$250K prizemoney +no entry fee +travel/ accommodation paid for 64 players).
Mosconi Cup $30K per winner player+$15K per losing player=$225K
+ no entry fee +travel/ accommodation paid for 10 players , 2 coaches and team support
Yes,they have increased payout for MC from $20K for winning player to $30K. Pretty generous and sign of even better things to come from Matchroom. Awesome :thumbup:
I'm sorry Bob. I don't see where the prize money breakdown is posted. Please point that out to me. That is the inducement you were talking about, wasn't it? You did refer to the "payouts" in your post #22 above. And there were no payouts listed until shortly before or even at the beginning of the actual event.
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I thought there were at least two or three times where the seating was close to 90% of capacity. I only saw a few empty seats at the ends of the top rows. I'm one who really checks to see what kind of "gate" someone is doing. Granted there were many comp seats, they still did a healthy gate. I'm guessing in the 25-30K range, maybe more. Enough to pay for their on-site staff anyway.
P.S. Capacity was at around 700, give or take 15 or 20. I counted the seats too.
How much was made on the daily ppv?
Next to nothing, I would say. The first few days were free, and then it was $20 to subscribe to DAZN to watch....there were some free streams available though. Do not think much, if any of the $20 went to MR anyway.
I think MR has some sort of deal with Sky. Sky did it but isn't seen in the US so they did the deal with DAZN. Folks, this is early days for this adventure. Give them time to get the train rolling. Certain people on here are going to take shots at it regardless of what happens. Knockers gotta knock. I for one can't wait to go nxt yr.
I agree, things are improving. I like the Mosconi Cup quality arena and stream. The overall prize money has increased, and we had 256 instead of 128 players.
As for the knockers, hey APA 8-Ball Nationals is going to start in a few days. Maybe they can complain about that.
As for the knockers, hey APA 8-Ball Nationals is going to start in a few days. Maybe they can complain about that.
The 2019 U.S. Open was actually broadcast in 130 countries. That's great for pool and the players!
SkySports pays all the production costs, not Matchroom. Of course they make all the commercial revenue, while Matchroom can license the broadcast to each television network. This is typical of most major sporting events. Not always of course, so I may not be 100% correct on their deal.
Mitch Ellerman
A long time, ah coming. Since Sigel did not wanna play Allison Fischer in her prime for the $250,000,000 IPT money....and since the WPBA board would NOT allow her to play....our Bobby Riggs moment didn't occurr.... FF 2019
US Open tv table....
Siming Drilling Mitch seeing that across the planet, well....how many MORE women will we see there next year?
There was another woman about Simings age, she played good, only getting (guess) 5-6 games per loss, and she probably won an early match.
Siming beating M.E. put her in the 3rd round winners side. And the 2nd round match that Mitch won before the TV table, he played ''lights out''. He knocked a great player ''into the 128 pit" he was feeling his oats. Mitch never looked comfortable. Some men, their mind gets skewed/or he may of never played a woman.
Was Simings winnings, the highest ever for a woman in an Open event with a 256 field?
A long time, ah coming. Since Sigel did not wanna play Allison Fischer in her prime for the $250,000,000 IPT money....and since the WPBA board would NOT allow her to play....our Bobby Riggs moment didn't occurr.... FF 2019
US Open tv table....
Siming Drilling Mitch seeing that across the planet, well....how many MORE women will we see there next year?
There was another woman about Simings age, she played good, only getting (guess) 5-6 games per loss, and she probably won an early match.
Siming beating M.E. put her in the 3rd round winners side. And the 2nd round match that Mitch won before the TV table, he played ''lights out''. He knocked a great player ''into the 128 pit" he was feeling his oats. Mitch never looked comfortable. Some men, their mind gets skewed/or he may of never played a woman.
Was Simings winnings, the highest ever for a woman in an Open event with a 256 field?