US Open draw and rules

[Kid Dynomite]

I like this the seeding by Matchroom here like their other events- Seeding is the way to go and what most sports practise

No surprises of top players playing each other very early in 1st round and most matches are top players playing “dead money “

Which means Day 1 is like a rehearsal practice day to the top players and nothing to watch so folks can still enjoy their Easter Sunday

I also like ref rack from final 16 and 9 on spot



BREAK RULES

- Players must use a forceful break.

- A racking template will be used by the section referee during the Double elimination stage of the tournament.

- Balls will be hand racked by the referee from the last 16 stage.

- Balls will be racked with the 9-ball on the spot during all stages of the tournament.

- Players can break from anywhere behind the head string.



40-SECOND SHOT CLOCK

- A 40-second shotclock will be in operation throughout the US Open 9-ball Championship.

- Each player will have x1 40-second extension per rack.



DRAW AND SEEDING

- A seeded draw will be conducted by Matchroom Multi Sport later this month and streamed on Facebook.

The seeding is the problem. It does not match fargo ratings! Orcollo is in 28 seed! Siming is seeded 86! Biado is 5 seed and big ko are all in same bracket! Half of the top ten fargo rank players are in same bracket! Totally malicious! The seeding numbers are beside the name! Alcaide is 21 and ranked higher than orcollo! Look for yourself!

Kd

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[Kid Dynomite]

Fargo ranking!

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[sjm]

The seeding is the problem. It does not match fargo ratings!

Seeding by Fargo rating would be ridiculous, as Fargo is not the official measure of a player. Biggest problem with Fargo is it doesn't really penalize you for skipping events. Some players who barely compete maintain high Fargo ratings, and that's not as it should be.

Unfortunately, not every player in the world has equal access to a high WPA ranking, as Americans have few WPA points events to enter on home soil. By contrast, all Eurotour events, I believe, carry WPA points. The situation, however, will change in 2019 as America now has the Players Championship later this week, next week's US Open in Las Vegas, and the International 9-ball in Virginia in October. All three of these carry WPA points.

So, for the moment, neither Fargo nor WPA ranking is ideal for seeding but, of the two, WPA ranking makes more sense to me and, in the foreseeable future, WPA ranking will make even more sense than it does now.

 

[BRussell]

The seeding is the problem. It does not match fargo ratings! Orcollo is in 28 seed! Siming is seeded 86! Biado is 5 seed and big ko are all in same bracket! Half of the top ten fargo rank players are in same bracket! Totally malicious! The seeding numbers are beside the name! Alcaide is 21 and ranked higher than orcollo! Look for yourself!

http://www.matchroompool.com/news/draw-made-us-open-9-ball/

The draw was seeded with a golf-style category system adopted, which took in rankings from across the pool world including WPA World Ranking, BCA Standings and Fargo Rating. As defending champion Shaw was seeded No.1, while five-time US Open champion Shane van Boening is seeded second as the highest ranked American player.

 

[Kid Dynomite]

Seeding by Fargo rating would be ridiculous, as Fargo is not the official measure of a player. Biggest problem with Fargo is it doesn't really penalize you for skipping events. Some players who barely compete maintain high Fargo ratings, and that's not as it should be.

Unfortunately, not every player in the world has equal access to a high WPA ranking, as Americans have few WPA points events to enter on home soil. By contrast, all Eurotour events, I believe, carry WPA points. The situation, however, will change in 2019 as America now has the Players Championship later this week, next week's US Open in Las Vegas, and the International 9-ball in Virginia in October. All three of these carry WPA points.

So, for the moment, neither Fargo nor WPA ranking is ideal for seeding but, of the two, WPA ranking makes more sense to me and, in the foreseeable future, WPA ranking will make even more sense than it does now.

You of all people understand!

Seeding is supposed to be fair!

How is it fair that biado , orcollo, Siming, Big Ko are in the same small bracket???

If Fargo is not used and WPA not used then what was and why???

Kd

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[Kid Dynomite]

Fargo has Siming at 45 and Schmidt at 100 plus

Here on the board Siming is 86 and Schmidt mid 70 seed

It is awful

Kd

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[Island Drive]

I like this the seeding by Matchroom here like their other events- Seeding is the way to go and what most sports practise
No surprises of top players playing each other very early in 1st round and most matches are top players playing “dead money “
Which means Day 1 is like a rehearsal practice day to the top players and nothing to watch so folks can still enjoy their Easter Sunday
I also like ref rack from final 16 and 9 on spot

BREAK RULES
- Players must use a forceful break.
- A racking template will be used by the section referee during the Double elimination stage of the tournament.
- Balls will be hand racked by the referee from the last 16 stage.
- Balls will be racked with the 9-ball on the spot during all stages of the tournament.
- Players can break from anywhere behind the head string.

40-SECOND SHOT CLOCK
- A 40-second shotclock will be in operation throughout the US Open 9-ball Championship.
- Each player will have x1 40-second extension per rack.

DRAW AND SEEDING
- A seeded draw will be conducted by Matchroom Multi Sport later this month and streamed on Facebook.

So again, who racks for each game during the knock out rounds? Is there an area referee doing it, holding the template/or?

Also, the 2017 event, if you were down on your shot and the 40 sec clock expired, player was still allowed to shoot the shot, but Not allowed to do an up/down.
Is this still in play?

 

[BRussell]

So again, who racks for each game during the knock out rounds? Is there an area referee doing it, holding the template/or?

It is oddly worded.

- A racking template will be used by the section referee during the Double elimination stage of the tournament.
- Balls will be hand racked by the referee from the last 16 stage.

I assume "hand racked" means triangle, after using a template in the qualifying rounds. I'm sure the players will love getting the break down and then making it to the final 16 and then having to re-learn it. Maybe only the final 16 is to be televised.

Also, the 2017 event, if you were down on your shot and the 40 sec clock expired, player was still allowed to shoot the shot, but Not allowed to do an up/down.
Is this still in play?

I don't think they care about how it was done before. My guess (and hope) is that it's the same shot clock as their other events: Shoot before time runs out.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Hi guys if you go to the Matchroom site and find the link for “player contract” it goes into way way more detail of the rules. I’d recommend reading it. It’s long, several pages.

Some things that caught my eye were game penalty if players were not at table on time, no practice, and match starts exactly 5 min after conclusion of prior match on table. It’s goibg to be FAST paced to get through this field in time!

 

[FeelDaShot]

You of all people understand!

Seeding is supposed to be fair!

How is it fair that biado , orcollo, Siming, Big Ko are in the same small bracket???

If Fargo is not used and WPA not used then what was and why???

Kd

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Here’s the seeding criteria: http://www.matchroompool.com/wp-content/uploads/US-Open-draw-seedings.pdf

 

[mikepage]

Fargo has Siming at 45 and Schmidt at 100 plus

Here on the board Siming is 86 and Schmidt mid 70 seed

It is awful

Kd

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Here are the players who earned a seed based on a Fargo Rating

 

[CallShotCowboy]

Unfortunately, not every player in the world has equal access to a high WPA ranking, as Americans have few WPA points events to enter on home soil. By contrast, all Eurotour events, I believe, carry WPA points. The situation, however, will change in 2019 as America now has the Players Championship later this week, next week's US Open in Las Vegas, and the International 9-ball in Virginia in October. All three of these carry WPA points.

Both Turning Stones, and Derby City also carry WPA partial points events.

 

[Kid Dynomite]

Here’s the seeding criteria: http://www.matchroompool.com/wp-content/uploads/US-Open-draw-seedings.pdf

Have you looked at that?

It was published yesterday!

Players entered before this seeding was announced! Not like they were given a heads up!

Second, the fargo rate strength meter for the brackets is way off!

fargo had Siming at 25 rank and today she is 45 !

This just stinkz like I said...

Kd

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[sjm]

Both Turning Stones, and Derby City also carry WPA partial points events.

Thanks for that. Guessing they must be WPA Tier 3.

 

[Kid Dynomite]

Here are the players who earned a seed based on a Fargo Rating

I thought fargo was going to be used 100% for the seeding! Some brackets are full of top rank fargo players and others have hardly any!!!


Kd

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[iusedtoberich]

No one anywhere ever said Fargo would be used for all seeding. I’m actually surprised and happy it was used at all.

This is WPA event and WPA points are far and away the most used criteria.

 

[CallShotCowboy]

If Fargo is not used and WPA not used then what was and why???

Matchroom said they used a combination of WPA rankings, BCA rankings and Fargo Rate.

 

[Island Drive]

Hi guys if you go to the Matchroom site and find the link for “player contract” it goes into way way more detail of the rules. I’d recommend reading it. It’s long, several pages.

Some things that caught my eye were game penalty if players were not at table on time, no practice, and match starts exactly 5 min after conclusion of prior match on table. It’s goibg to be FAST paced to get through this field in time!

THx, I'll go hunting for it. Which page. Also, it's still winner breaks/option.

 

[Kid Dynomite]

Matchroom said they used a combination of WPA rankings, BCA rankings and Fargo Rate.

why????


Just looks really bad!!!!

if you believe in Fargo then having one bracket filled with top players is far from fair

KD

 

[iusedtoberich]

I’m on mobile now but I think the player contract was near the players list. It’s definitely worth reading imo. I hope Matchroom keeps to it, and comes down with an iron fist on rule violations imo.