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I'm right behind you. Finally I can enter, now that Mika and the rest won't be bothering. They may turn their nose up at the $120 first prize but I'll play my balls off for it. I heard there's over $40 of added money and second place gets his entry fee back next year, plus one free side from the buffet!
I only bet on things I want to see happen.
On the Open I am torn. I would love to see it continue but not if it is the same old song and dance where the money is concerned.
The players are not the only ones owed money. This is a real mess and I think the latest press release is a bad omen. If Barry can square it away and do the right thing next year good for him. If he cant he needs to just stop.
From what I pick up from Barry... (This is just my insight and not a defense of his shortcomings, mmmkay?)
He ain't gonna go out quietly.
Unless and until a year or two whereby most of the top players do not play, he's not letting go. He wants to take it to his grave and pass it on to Shannon. It's his legacy!
37 years in a row? Do we all get what that takes?
It means the world to Barry. Even more than his dog.
He ain't gonna go out quietly.
Unless and until a year or two whereby most of the top players do not play, he's not letting go. He wants to take it to his grave and pass it on to Shannon. It's his legacy!
37 years in a row? Do we all get what that takes?
It means the world to Barry. Even more than his dog.
I cant think of a reason why Shannon would want to take on that nightmare. The Open is Barry's thing. I think its plain to see that eventually it is going to fold and when that happens the chances are players in the final year will not get paid.
Barry never has the added money beforehand and if he honors his PR statement then I don't see how another Open happens unless its significantly less added money. A LOT of people besides players are super pissed about this one.
Do you think that next years field will be greatly reduced. I do.
After making promises for this past year and duplicating all the mistakes made in years past, I would be seriously leery about entering 2013.
Of course, the World is going to end on the 21st so maybe no one will have to worry about it.
After making promises for this past year and duplicating all the mistakes made in years past, I would be seriously leery about entering 2013.
Of course, the World is going to end on the 21st so maybe no one will have to worry about it.
What next year?
No matter what happened in the last few years, players are still going to play in the U.S. Open. If the top players don't show up...who cares. More money for the underdogs. :thumbup:
It will still be a great event.
It's a pool tournament and everyone should be thankful for it.:smile:
It will still be a great event.
It's a pool tournament and everyone should be thankful for it.:smile:
If you were talking about a normal human being who understood these things, i would agree with you.
But we are talking about BB.
That boy is WHACKED.
Guy is still pipe dreaming that he can pull off some grandiose Opens like in the past that were great events.
But the Open will never be like that again. EVER.
Try telling that to a delusional pool promoter.
If you were talking about a normal human being who understood these things, i would agree with you.
But we are talking about BB.
That boy is WHACKED.
Guy is still pipe dreaming that he can pull off some grandiose Opens like in the past that were great events.
But the Open will never be like that again. EVER.
Try telling that to a delusional pool promoter.
All the BB's of the world can't argue with math. I love the open and I'll love it even if it's smaller so it can be workable.
Would you be singing the same tune if you spent your time and thousands of dollars to play and then not get paid?
So who didn't get paid? Thousands of dollars? Who pays thousands of dollars to play in one tournament?
What big tournaments have you played in???
Anyone who plays in a week long tournament pays thousands of dollars to play in it, especially when they are travelling.
Airfare, $400-600, Hotel $600-1500, entry $550, food, etc...... car rental....
It's easy to spend $2000-3000 on a tourney like the open.
I had to explain that to my new sponsor because they asked me what the entry fee was to the open. I said $550, and the response was that cheap?
Not a billiards related sponsor....
Now I don't feel comfortable letting them pay my way next year since there is such a bad stigma associated with the open and it is likely to not be as prestigious of a title.
Jaden
Anyone who plays in a week long tournament pays thousands of dollars to play in it, especially when they are travelling.
Airfare, $400-600, Hotel $600-1500, entry $550, food, etc...... car rental....
It's easy to spend $2000-3000 on a tourney like the open.
I had to explain that to my new sponsor because they asked me what the entry fee was to the open. I said $550, and the response was that cheap?
Not a billiards related sponsor....
Now I don't feel comfortable letting them pay my way next year since there is such a bad stigma associated with the open and it is likely to not be as prestigious of a title.
Jaden
Entry fees....travel expenses....accomodations... Trust me, it's thousands, particularly for the overseas players. Some may have sponsorship, but even then, I doubt there are many that have full expenses covered.
Jaden, while I don't doubt your figures for expenses, I was wondering if any but the top players could come up with that much and justify it.
I think that many players are pretty good at being frugal when they have to be. Travel expenses are what they are. They would find a way to cut hotel expenses by rooming up and if their eating habits aren't any better than myself at the last tourney I reffed. I lived on hot dogs and potato chips for 3 days.
But then, I'm an old Carny and my belly is used to that kind of diet. Sure that most players are not much different.
I think that many players are pretty good at being frugal when they have to be. Travel expenses are what they are. They would find a way to cut hotel expenses by rooming up and if their eating habits aren't any better than myself at the last tourney I reffed. I lived on hot dogs and potato chips for 3 days.
But then, I'm an old Carny and my belly is used to that kind of diet. Sure that most players are not much different.
1. Something like the top 10 players (if not more) haven't been paid
2. Travel and hotel can be expensive. Remember a lot of players come from afar
3. I thought the entry was something like $600
Well...even if it does cost thousands of dollars to play in one tournament...LOL, there is still no guarantee that someone will cash.
No one can count on getting into the money in the U.S. Open...even if they come from across the ocean.
Too many good players....
Can't count anyone out.
Rumor or fact...top ten or more didn't get paid a dime? Hmmm....
Friday November 30
To be honest...I played in the Open a few times in the 1980's and I can tell you, if I didn't get paid or some of the other players didn't get paid then, there would of been big trouble. Someone would of been going to jail, the hospital, maybe both and some table would of been ripped up.
Or...LOL, people would be sleeping at the pool room or Barry's house until payment was made.
I wasn't good enough to cash but I was a nut back in those days and would of went off.
If it would happen today at my age, I would probably call a lawyer or the police. I would think there would of been some kind of arrangement between the players and Barry for the police to be not involved.
This is just my thoughts and opinions and I'm not always right. Just wanted to be part of the conversation....
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I do not know a whole lot about the situation but what I read here and there but it seems to me that this is not the first or even second year that this has happened. People are posting that about how pissed that the players and I suppose workers are for being paid late. I just dont see how someone could really be all that mad knowing what they do about this tourney and the name that it has started to take for itself. It just seems that one would kinda expect it which is sad....