Others seem to be similarly afflicted.
Hyperlinking was not invented by Tim Berners-Lee, Ted Nelson likely deserves that credit.
Dave
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USA, all the way?
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Others seem to be similarly afflicted.
Hyperlinking was not invented by Tim Berners-Lee, Ted Nelson likely deserves that credit.
Dave
TheThaiger
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This speaks to the much-larger problem of how Brits perceive themselves in the world. So I guess your technique backfired, Tim, because we now see there are many more of your "superiority complex" type over there, than just plain ol' Tim.
You are obsessed with the British, Sean. It is not surprising, but you should get over it.
No, I saw what was written. I'm good like that.
No, someone else bumped it.
Lol. I merely repeated something I was told. It was also something I really don't care about. But, to humour you, it appears from other posts the jury is out on who invented what.
No. Again, really couldn't care less either way.
No. I had no idea you provided secretarial services for "one of the founding companies on the internet". Your career 'highlights' really don't interest me.
No it doesn't. It certainly doesn't behoove you to tell us about it, not least because nobody cares. It really comes to something when pool players boast about how nerdy they are.
But alas, that doesn't matter, because in his mind -- "the BBC" (yeah, now that's an authoritative source for information technology if I ever saw one) said that a "Brit invented the Internet" -- and that's all he wants to hear.
No it's not. My ability to care about such geekery is strained to the max. Should I go into the pool hall and boast proudly about the differences between the internet and the world wide web, I'd expect several sharp blows to the head. I'd probably inflict some myself. That you take pride in knowing such nonsense is very telling.
Yes, like those that don't know the difference between zero racks and ten racks? That sort of ostrich that sticks his head in the sand, Sean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ve5ykKi0Ls
All it "tells" is that one has an understanding of the technical history of "the Internet", which is somewhat handy (but not essential) when one is a computer communications specialist ... and the knowledge is certainly not nonsense. Based on your comments you are not a computer communications specialist.
Dave <-- computer communications specialist for the last 33 years, nerd for longer than that, engineer-but-can't-drive-a-train, and sometimes pool player
TheThaiger
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I am delighted to report I am not.
What is a good thing to know and boast about then?
Proper techniques for tipping a hooker?
How much HP each model of the Rolls Phantom had?
What type of nails should be used in building a shed?
It's people that know that provide the ability for people that don't know to survive and have happy ignorant lives. Just funnel money into them and munch away in ignorance. I think the Time Machine had a good, although extreme, portrait of the differences between those that know things, the ones that did not were raised as food, although they were quite happy in being fed without caring about the how or why.
Boasting of one's ignorance, is, well, ignorant.
TheThaiger
Banned
I've seen that one before, but this time it got my funny-bone. :killingme:
The Venerable Bede
So, Europe is not a country... Tell us more Cap'n Obvious
Oh, the poster never, ever said it was, just for the record.
What?
Gosh, hang-the-9, that was too easy.
That's exactly right -- and that knowledge comes in handy *every day* for its appropriate purpose -- which has nothing to do with pool. I love the diversion Tim makes about going into a pool hall with that knowledge -- which has nothing to do with anything. What it does have to do with, is completely deflating and incinerating his "but a Brit invented this!" statement that he's now trying to dance around and keep his distance from. He makes an incorrect statement, and the onus is on him to have to back it up when challenged.
-Sean
Nice projection, again, Tim. When you get called for incorrect facts or for your snobbiness, you project and divert.
The one with the obsession, is you. You are obsessed with your country and its place in the world, so much so that you have to brag about every stinking "achievement" that a Brit or your country made at every turn. E.g. cuemanship in pool, your county's achievements in the Olympics, whatever. We, the readership, are quick to point this out. I happen to hit you over the head harder than others, because I happen to work with some Brits, and they are nothing like you. So it kinda grates me that someone like you would represent your country so badly.
And *that* is what I'm pointing out. The fact that the BBC (yes, that oh-so-technology-authoritative source again), printed "father of the Internet" under Tim Berners-Lee's name, was "enough" for you, and you're "happy with that" because it suits your grasping-at-straws purposes.
::face-palm:: There's that deflection again.
"I merely repeated something I was told." Yup, playground-esque debate skills. When challenged, just divert and deflect, saying that "someone else is responsible." Stand up for something you say for once, Tim, and stop with the diversionary games.
::yawn:: If you really couldn't care less either way, why are you continuing to engage me on this? See, the difference is I *do* care. I do care that you represent your country so badly, with misrepresentation.
Ah, now we see your true colors. Yep, that's what I do for a living, Tim. I'm just a mere secretary. All I do is provide typing skills for high-tech companies. What I'd like to ask you, since you know so much about what I do, is how much are my typing skills worth?
So what you're trying to say, is when someone comes into a pool room and makes a grandiosely-stupid comment about something non-pool-related to the masses, but someone sitting nearby and within earshot happens to have in-depth knowledge of the topic that the person who made the boneheaded comment about, should say nothing? Or, if he says something, it's considered "boasting about how nerdy they are," when all it was to correct bad information?
I think I'm getting this now.
Ah yes, what would forum life be without Tim bringing this video up? I'll tell you what, Tim -- I play exactly like that, right now. Yes, that video is representative of my skills, to a "T" -- it couldn't be more accurate. Yup, right now, I'm playing pool just like that.
Would you like to have a go? I keep making that offer to you over the years, but you weasel your way out of it each time. In fact, I'm dying to hear your latest excuse -- which, of course, will be yet another demonstration of projection.
-Sean
That's right. Even though Tim Berners-Lee gets the nod for the whole topic of "hyperlinking" (a root concept of the world wide web), Tim didn't invent it -- it already existed, and guys like Ted Nelson and Douglas Engelbart get the nod for that. All Tim did was cobble already-existing things together, and glue them together with a new protocol (which he did invent) called HyperText Transfer Protocol or HTTP for short. It was the missing piece of the puzzle to make the Internet as we know it today. Sort of like someone inventing leather seats for automobiles, but Tim sees that invention as this person "inventing the automobile" -- the entire thing, lock, stock, and barrel.
-Sean
So go fix your post #108 :wink:
Dave <-- was playing with HyperCard before the WWW existed
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PS Please know I think Sean "knows his stuff" in the area of computer networking, and likely knows much more than myself in many areas, not that I am that technically strong, just old. To most non-geeks T.B-E did invent hyper* by making it so accessible over an existing infrastructure built to a huge extent by US comp-sic academics and the US computer industry. I am mostly poking fun due to the overall circumstances surrounding this little skirmish ... always the chit disturber
PPS Also done with this thread within a thread just in case this old thread can be salvaged before being tossed to those fools in NPR />
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So go fix your post #108 :wink:
Dave <-- was playing with HyperCard before the WWW existed
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PS Please know I think Sean "knows his stuff" in the area of computer networking, and likely knows much more than myself in many areas, not that I am that technically strong, just old. To most non-geeks T.B-E did invent hyper* by making it so accessible over an existing infrastructure built to a huge extent by US comp-sic academics and the US computer industry. I am mostly poking fun due to the overall circumstances surrounding this little skirmish ... always the chit disturber
PPS Also done with this thread within a thread just in case this old thread can be salvaged before being tossed to those fools in NPR />
Dave:
Honestly? It's no use. No use in fixing post #108 or whatever it was, because the target of that post is 100% non-receptive. In other words, "404". (Only an IT guy like you would get that.)
And yes, Tim is indeed the chit-disturber for sure. But you watch -- he'll spin it and project it such that you and I are the "obvious ones" to blame. I 100% trust you know what you talk about, as I'm sure you do I.
But hey, Jameson shots, Jameson. First round is on me!
-Sean
Hey Thaiger, I'm still waiting for you to get your limey butt over here to see how well you'll do playing in the colonies. Los Angeles is not quite as congested as London but we certainly have the market cornered on freaky people and oddities.
Come to LA. I'll buy you some Fish and Chips or an American thing we have called tacos and take you on a tour of some real poolhalls. There is a definite pool culture here. It's hard to understand us until you see it first hand. Lots of good players, lots of interesting gambling. Lots of history.
By the way, I forgot where you live but in August we're going to Edinburgh, then Scottish highlands (Inverness), Glasgow, then to Ireland.
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Great post Chris. Encourage everyone to travel, one of lifes finest teachers IMO.
Dave <-- complete liar about being done with this thread :sorry: it's the whiskeys fault
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No one, as you know, really invented the internet...
No one person invented the internet, but hell, since I program DWDM systems which makes much of the modern internet possible, maybe I helped build the internet...
For those wondering what that is, DWDM is dense wave division multiplexing, which is a fancy way of saying using multiple wave lengths of light to create multiple channels on a single fiber optic line.
With current technology we can send 100gb/s on a single channel and up to 96 channels (going slightly into the L band) on a single fiber optic line.
This means that a single fiber optic line can carry 9.6 Tb/s if all channels are utilized at maximum bandwidth...
Jaden
So go fix your post #108 :wink:
Dave <-- was playing with HyperCard before the WWW existed
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PS Please know I think Sean "knows his stuff" in the area of computer networking, and likely knows much more than myself in many areas, not that I am that technically strong, just old. To most non-geeks T.B-E did invent hyper* by making it so accessible over an existing infrastructure built to a huge extent by US comp-sic academics and the US computer industry. I am mostly poking fun due to the overall circumstances surrounding this little skirmish ... always the chit disturber
PPS Also done with this thread within a thread just in case this old thread can be salvaged before being tossed to those fools in NPR />
No one person invented the internet, but hell, since I program DWDM systems which makes much of the modern internet possible, maybe I helped build the internet...
For those wondering what that is, DWDM is dense wave division multiplexing, which is a fancy way of saying using multiple wave lengths of light to create multiple channels on a single fiber optic line.
With current technology we can send 100gb/s on a single channel and up to 96 channels (going slightly into the L band) on a single fiber optic line.
This means that a single fiber optic line can carry 9.6 Tb/s if all channels are utilized at maximum bandwidth...
Jaden