USA MC Captain

Yes. The captain needs to help them learn what deficiencies they need to work on to defeat defeat their opponent.

Lou Figueroa
So, waaaay back when the U.S. could still win a MC, do you actually think the captain was instructing the players? No freakin' way.
 
Don't need to... back then ;-)

Lou Figueroa
So what are trying to say? Our current players are so bad they need a captain to give them instruction but the teams that won didn't? Read J. Bergman's comments about the captain. I'm going waaaay out on a limb and say he knows more about this than you EVER will.
 
lol, not following the logic.

Pool does not have a system for growing coaches. Gregg Popovic was a Kansas volunteer assistant back in ’86 way back before coaching the SA Spurs; Erik Spoelstra was a Miami Heat assistant way back in ’97 before coaching the Maimi Heat; Bill Belichick was a special assistant way back in ’75 at Baltimore before coaching New England; John Harbaugh was a Western Michigan running backs coach way back in '84 before coaching the Baltimore Ravens; Mike McCarthy was at Fort Hayes State way back in ’87 before coaching the Green Bay Packers; Bruce Arians was at Virginia Tech way back in '75 as a graduate assistant before coaching the Arizona cardinals; Mike Tomlin was VMI wide receivers coach way back in ’95 before coaching the Pittsburgh Steelers; Pete Carroll was at Pacific way back in ’73 as a graduate assistant before coaching the Seattle Seahawks; and Joe Maddon started out as a scout for the Angels way back in ’93 before coaching the Cubs.
And in the interim they all had other positions that let them grow and gain experience and become successful.

You want to bring someone in off the street and have them coach the Super Bowl, lol.

Lou Figueroa

Lou "forever clueless" Figueroa... always missing the point. Never fails. Of course I meant "never played professionally" obviously means brining someone in off the streets. Why wouldn't it be one extreme or the other with you?
 
So what are trying to say? Our current players are so bad they need a captain to give them instruction but the teams that won didn't? Read J. Bergman's comments about the captain. I'm going waaaay out on a limb and say he knows more about this than you EVER will.


What am I trying to say? I'm saying that the US was better than the Euros back then. You can climb back off that limb now.

Lou Figueroa
can't believe I
have 'splain that
 
Lou "forever clueless" Figueroa... always missing the point. Never fails. Of course I meant "never played professionally" obviously means brining someone in off the streets. Why wouldn't it be one extreme or the other with you?


No, you missa da point. Pool does not have a system where a coach, or captain if you prefer, can learn to lead professional players at the highest level of their chosen competitive sport. At football or baseball a coach can easily have decades to learn their craft but not at pool. At pool the "credential" you have for captain is how well you play/played and not your ego as an amateur level player.

And so, Monsieur Cleary, it is you who is clueless.

Lou Figueroa
with apologies to
Peter Sellers
 

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What am I trying to say? I'm saying that the US was better than the Euros back then. You can climb back off that limb now.

Lou Figueroa
can't believe I
have 'splain that

When the U.S was winning all or most of the time was when Europe had mostly snooker players and little else. To me you act like you hate all pro pool players because you can't play better the a "C" player after all the years you've been playing. We all saw that live on stream. Johnnyt
 
What am I trying to say? I'm saying that the US was better than the Euros back then. You can climb back off that limb now.

Lou Figueroa
can't believe I
have 'splain that

Or maybe the Euros were that much worse. Yeah that's more likely.
 
No, you missa da point. Pool does not have a system where a coach, or captain if you prefer, can learn to lead professional players at the highest level of their chosen competitive sport. At football or baseball a coach can easily have decades to learn their craft but not at pool. At pool the "credential" you have for captain is how well you play/played and not your ego as an amateur level player.

And so, Monsieur Cleary, it is you who is clueless.

Lou Figueroa
with apologies to
Peter Sellers

How good was Johan Rujinsink?
 
When the U.S was winning all or most of the time was when Europe had mostly snooker players and little else. To me you act like you hate all pro pool players because you can't play better the a "C" player after all the years you've been playing. We all saw that live on stream. Johnnyt


I'm advocating for a pro player to be our country's team captain... so in your mind I hate pro players. Too funny.

Lou Figueroa
lol
 
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The Mosconi Cup would be better without Lou talking about it. The US team would probably be better too.
 
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How good was Johan Rujinsink?

Prior to captaining his first Mosconi Cup (2006), Johann was the head of the Royal Dutch Billiards Association acting as both instructor and coach to a number of top pool players. But more importantly, he had tremendous credibility with MC players such as Niels Feijen, NVB, and Alex Lely.

And, IMO, that is the key ingredient for a successful coach - credibility. Without credibility, it is difficult if not impossible for him/her to motivate, teach, or lead any group to success.

How do you gain credibility? For this, there isn't just one path. Sometimes, credibility is earned through past coaching success (Johann, Bill Belichick, Marv Levy, ...). Other times it comes through past playing success (Ray Reardon, Lenny Wilkens, Joe Torre, etc...).

But all great coaches, BEFORE given the opportunity to prove their greatness FIRST had to be credible.
 
Tell me Why Rempe isn't a good choice?

I still think he's a great choice....how could another be much better? He's a world traveler, one of the first American players too hook horns with the Snooker players. Jimmy has traveled the world many/many times and has always the ability to beat anyone, and does often. He's the breed of Cardone, Liscotti, Marino, Sigel, Hubbard and Lassiter/Balsis & Irving Crane nippin' at his heals in his youth at Janscos' Johnson City IL as their prime had passed.
 
I still think he's a great choice....how could another be much better? He's a world traveler, one of the first American players too hook horns with the Snooker players. Jimmy has traveled the world many/many times and has always the ability to beat anyone, and does often. He's the breed of Cardone, Liscotti, Marino, Sigel, Hubbard and Lassiter/Balsis & Irving Crane nippin' at his heals in his youth at Janscos' Johnson City IL as their prime had passed.

Do you know he is available? I think i saw Keith play more recently than Rempe I'm pretty sure. I guess he could be going under my radar but it seems he hasn't been real involved in pool of late. He may not even recognize the names of a couple of our guys. JMHO
 
Do you know he is available? I think i saw Keith play more recently than Rempe I'm pretty sure. I guess he could be going under my radar but it seems he hasn't been real involved in pool of late. He may not even recognize the names of a couple of our guys. JMHO

Jim is triple smart....
 
The Mosconi Cup would be better without Lou talking about it. The US team would probably be better too.


We're just kicking the can around here. No idea if it helps or hurts. The decision was probably made a long time ago.

Lou Figueroa
 
Prior to captaining his first Mosconi Cup (2006), Johann was the head of the Royal Dutch Billiards Association acting as both instructor and coach to a number of top pool players. But more importantly, he had tremendous credibility with MC players such as Niels Feijen, NVB, and Alex Lely.

And, IMO, that is the key ingredient for a successful coach - credibility. Without credibility, it is difficult if not impossible for him/her to motivate, teach, or lead any group to success.

How do you gain credibility? For this, there isn't just one path. Sometimes, credibility is earned through past coaching success (Johann, Bill Belichick, Marv Levy, ...). Other times it comes through past playing success (Ray Reardon, Lenny Wilkens, Joe Torre, etc...).

But all great coaches, BEFORE given the opportunity to prove their greatness FIRST had to be credible.


I would have to agree that credibility is critical and that there is not just one path. Nor does any one path automatically lead to credibility.

Lou Figueroa
wrote a paper
on this once
 
I still think he's a great choice....how could another be much better? He's a world traveler, one of the first American players too hook horns with the Snooker players. Jimmy has traveled the world many/many times and has always the ability to beat anyone, and does often. He's the breed of Cardone, Liscotti, Marino, Sigel, Hubbard and Lassiter/Balsis & Irving Crane nippin' at his heals in his youth at Janscos' Johnson City IL as their prime had passed.


Well, IMO, the truth of that matter is that he's been out of the scene too long. Part of the whole MC "thing" is making it current and marketable to younger viewers. A lot of them would ask, "Who is Rempe?"

Lou Figueroa
 
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