Varney - gorgeous j/b...don't miss!

[ARROWCRUSHER]

it's funny the newer members always say the same stuff.

You know what buddy!! I been on here alot longer then you know!! Just because I stayed away from registering cause of rock throwers just like your self. Actually I don't really care what your opinions are of Kevin , you know why ? Cause it's your opinion !! So don't go judgeing me for anything buddy! everybody gets these big innernet muscle's sitting behind a screen and keyboard. This is exactly why I left this place alone cause of people like you. You don't like Varney or his cue's or buisness practices ? Don't look at his threads or his cue's !! Don't be interested in his work. You guy's are are just so jealous. and why ? Why I can see if you were wronged , but most of you bashers never have had any dealings with him then go slam him. If you got burnt go file charges, Do something other then sit behind the computer and say stupid stuff and act like little kids..You know I say it to you like I said it to someone who pm's me !! Leave me out of it . This is a public forum, If it's ok for you to say what you want negatively, then why is it wrong for me to say my experience and my opinion ? Grow up and practice pool your game probably needs it cause you can't get any better sitting behind the computer !!<<AND THATS ANOTHER OPINION OF MINE !!!<<<ED

 

[ARROWCRUSHER]

What is this members ,, jump on me and act like I can't post my own opinions or post my thoughts ? And them get pm's from members saying Im doing something wrong for saying nice cue or whatever ? This is bull--- and if I want to buy a cue from any maker on here I will it's my money and I will spend it how ever I want. So don't pm me or quote me as im doing something wrong or whatever. Last I seen this is a public forum and I thought I could come here to see nice cue's and whatever. Just becareful members if the (click) don't like what you post you will get critized for it. And pm's saying the same thing and guess what ? It's from the same ( click ) all the time !!! So be far warned !!!<<ED

 

[cubswin]

It's always the same one's that are bashing on here. If you took a toll of any cuemakers out there that their cue's are in demand I bet they fall behind just the same as Kevin, I just think it s a whole lot of jealousy on here that some aren't as busy as others in this buisness. But if someone is trying to make good and you have the same crowd slamming him every cue he puts up on here, I see a pattern. I guess some people get a kick out of trying to take food out of others mouths. It's hard enough to sell cue's with this economy, but some just try to make it impossible for anyone to be in this buisness. I for one hope no one ever has any problems getting a cue from any cuemaker anymore. And I hope every deal that was made in the past gets made good. So all this can stop!! But this is just my opinion. <<ED

Its nothing to do with his cues for most of us, its the taking payment for the cues and then failing to deliver them on the promised time that bugs us. I don't care if a cuemaker takes longer than promised to deliver, as long as they don't ask for money first. I believe if you need a deposit, and in some cases take payment in full, then you better deliver close to on time and not delayed by 6 months to a year.

As Kevin suggests, buy a cue that is already done, or buy from someone else if you are like me. Its good advice. At this point anyone who gets burned by Kevin has been warned, and they can proceed as they see fit.

 

[poolhustler]

Congrats on your sale KV

 

[ARROWCRUSHER]

Its nothing to do with his cues for most of us, its the taking payment for the cues and then failing to deliver them on the promised time that bugs us. I don't care if a cuemaker takes longer than promised to deliver, as long as they don't ask for money first. I believe if you need a deposit, and in some cases take payment in full, then you better deliver close to on time and not delayed by 6 months to a year.

As Kevin suggests, buy a cue that is already done, or buy from someone else if you are like me. Its good advice. At this point anyone who gets burned by Kevin has been warned, and they can proceed as they see fit.

Yes I understand this but , my point is people pm'ing me and quoteing me like Im doing something wrong. I dont need to be brought into something I had nothing to do with !! this is my point, and a few on here like to drag me into this and I had nothing to do with it !!ED

 

[Varney Cues]

This cue is now sold.

 

[poolplayer2093]

You know what buddy!! I been on here alot longer then you know!! Just because I stayed away from registering cause of rock throwers just like your self. Actually I don't really care what your opinions are of Kevin , you know why ? Cause it's your opinion !! So don't go judgeing me for anything buddy! everybody gets these big innernet muscle's sitting behind a screen and keyboard. This is exactly why I left this place alone cause of people like you. You don't like Varney or his cue's or buisness practices ? Don't look at his threads or his cue's !! Don't be interested in his work. You guy's are are just so jealous. and why ? Why I can see if you were wronged , but most of you bashers never have had any dealings with him then go slam him. If you got burnt go file charges, Do something other then sit behind the computer and say stupid stuff and act like little kids..You know I say it to you like I said it to someone who pm's me !! Leave me out of it . This is a public forum, If it's ok for you to say what you want negatively, then why is it wrong for me to say my experience and my opinion ? Grow up and practice pool your game probably needs it cause you can't get any better sitting behind the computer !!<<AND THATS ANOTHER OPINION OF MINE !!!<<<ED

i don't have big internet muscles. as far as i can tell i have never posted anything on here that i wouldn't say to someone's face. how do you figure i'm jealous? what am i jealous of?

if stupid stuff is warning newer members about former bad deals then me and you have different views of stupid stuff. i came close to getting burned but managed to wiggle out of it.

i run into local az'rs and they'll let you know that i'm not champ but it does show that i practice A LOT. i'm no cue snob that can't get out. believe me bro i play way more than im on az (which is a lot).

 

[cuesblues]

Varney Jump Break

Very nice work Kevin
The cue looks great

 

[poolplayer2093]

What is this members ,, jump on me and act like I can't post my own opinions or post my thoughts ? And them get pm's from members saying Im doing something wrong for saying nice cue or whatever ? This is bull--- and if I want to buy a cue from any maker on here I will it's my money and I will spend it how ever I want. So don't pm me or quote me as im doing something wrong or whatever. Last I seen this is a public forum and I thought I could come here to see nice cue's and whatever. Just becareful members if the (click) don't like what you post you will get critized for it. And pm's saying the same thing and guess what ? It's from the same ( click ) all the time !!! So be far warned !!!<<ED

you're right it's your dough. the people posting in these threads only want to make it clear to anyone thinking of throwing down their cash that they might be throwing it into a black hole. god forbid az consumers start looking out for each other and warning each other about possible scams

 

[ARROWCRUSHER]

you're right it's your dough. the people posting in these threads only want to make it clear to anyone thinking of throwing down their cash that they might be throwing it into a black hole. god forbid az consumers start looking out for each other and warning each other about possible scams

I respect people looking out for others on AZ I never stood up and say hey people buy this cue ,,, Kevin is a saint !! I just said nice cue , Or good work. I like his cue's so I bought from him ,my choice. Everyone on here has a chance to buy from who ever they want to. It;s up to them to do the research to find things out, Believe me You guys did your job of slamming people on here , same as your trying to do to me now. Does this make you happy quoteing me and trying to start conflict ?? I asked you nicely to leave me out of it , a couple time and you just keep being a D-ck about it !! You are just letting everyone see how you really are, Same as members contact me out of the blue and say about you starting on me for posting mey opinion!! What did I ever do to you or anyone else ?? NOTHING just say nice cue or nice work !! GROW UP <>ED

 

[Soldtonight]

Very nice...

Kevin nice looking cue, good luck with your sale. I use one of your JB cues and it hits them great.
Maybe they should start a BASHING CUE MAKER FORUM and leave the sales forum for sales. What do you think...

 

[gobrian77]

Just FYI- I have one of Kevin's j/b cues that is about 1/2oz. heavier than this one and it breaks like a monster- everyone who tries it wants one.:wink:

 

[Varney Cues]

Thank you gentlemen for the kind words. I greatly appreciate it!:smile:
I also have this Varney player available if anyone is interested...what a set it would make with the j/b. I'll make a sweet deal on the pair.

 

[dave sutton]

ill say this on cuemakers behalf in general.

just bc you take partial payment doesnt mean anything. all this does is ensure the buyer has some commitment to the cuemaker monitarily. i personally wont make a cue without a deposite. reason being is when that cue is finished and the buyer is no where to be found what can i do??? not all of us can afford to have this happen alot. now i have to find someone who wants THIS CUE the way it is. in the past if a deposite is made and money problems occur they are on the hook for the deposite. i try to sell the cue for my asking price and when it sells i refund the deposite. best i can do. knock on wood i havent had problems doing this but it can happen

as far as missing deadlines... it happens even to the best. i always say anything that is rushed is usually wrong. all a maker can do is give a best estimate to when the cue will be done. no one says this date is set in stone. so what happens when somone orders say a bacote plain jane. you promised 3 months. you work on the cue for 2 months. pass, hang, pass, hang. then you have an accident or the wood moves and you have to start all over again. wood does what it wants. now say i dont have a pc of bacote ready for another cue. now i gotta find a ready piece and start over again.

now lets let kevin get back to selling a completed cue that has no wait time :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[Varney Cues]

ill say this on cuemakers behalf in general.

just bc you take partial payment doesnt mean anything. all this does is ensure the buyer has some commitment to the cuemaker monitarily. i personally wont make a cue without a deposite. reason being is when that cue is finished and the buyer is no where to be found what can i do??? not all of us can afford to have this happen alot. now i have to find someone who wants THIS CUE the way it is. in the past if a deposite is made and money problems occur they are on the hook for the deposite. i try to sell the cue for my asking price and when it sells i refund the deposite. best i can do. knock on wood i havent had problems doing this but it can happen

as far as missing deadlines... it happens even to the best. i always say anything that is rushed is usually wrong. all a maker can do is give a best estimate to when the cue will be done. no one says this date is set in stone. so what happens when somone orders say a bacote plain jane. you promised 3 months. you work on the cue for 2 months. pass, hang, pass, hang. then you have an accident or the wood moves and you have to start all over again. wood does what it wants. now say i dont have a pc of bacote ready for another cue. now i gotta find a ready piece and start over again.

now lets let kevin get back to selling a completed cue that has no wait time :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Thank you mr. Sutton.:smile:

 

[mia]

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At this point, any comments won't make a difference at all. There will always be unsuspecting people who buy into this crap. So be it.

 

[poolhustler]

Congrats on your sale KV

 

[ARROWCRUSHER]

I don't get it........

Who has actually been burnt by KV?? I'm not talking about him being late on a delivery or lack of communication. I'm talking about someone who has paid for a cue and KV has NOT delivered a cue. Anyone??? Because if that's the case, I have not read about it on here and KV has NO negative iTrader (except the one from Craig -Manwon. And from what I know, Craig has NEVER even dealt with KV).

I understand that he has been late on delivery dates and not been the best in the past with communication. Ok, well in my book and my dealings with cue makers, that puts him in the same league as Ed Prewitt and Ernie Gutierrez. I don't see anyone bashing them to death!!!

So, let's hear it, has KV actually STOLEN money from anyone on AZ???

Russ...

Thanks Russ, This is what I want to here also. I have people pm me critizize me for buying a cue or even, just saying nice cue. Lets have these so called people that were wronged speak up and show proof. Then I understand, I do understand everyone has their right to their opinion, but for them to call me out and say Im wrong for buying a cue with my money, or saying nice cue. Then to tell me Im helping Kevin bait them in. IT is so wrong, And then one guy tell me Im one of Kevins alter ego's and dont even exist !!!!:grin: Yea then I hear from others he said the same stuff to them. This guy is really worried about Kevin's life to think this. I tell ya. And he's the one that supossedly sold his spot. thats it. I just dont get this stuff. I cant beleive someone high up lets this bashing go on !! This is MY OPINION !!<<ED

 

[Remy]

Nice Varney

Nice cue Kevin and best of luck with the sale.

I bought a cue from Kevin before and it was a smooth transaction.
Heck he even fixed a cue from me that another cuemaker had butchered up free of charge!!

Tony V

 

[poolplayer2093]

I don't get it........

Who has actually been burnt by KV?? I'm not talking about him being late on a delivery or lack of communication. I'm talking about someone who has paid for a cue and KV has NOT delivered a cue. Anyone??? Because if that's the case, I have not read about it on here and KV has NO negative iTrader (except the one from Craig -Manwon. And from what I know, Craig has NEVER even dealt with KV).

I understand that he has been late on delivery dates and not been the best in the past with communication. Ok, well in my book and my dealings with cue makers, that puts him in the same league as Ed Prewitt and Ernie Gutierrez. I don't see anyone bashing them to death!!!

So, let's hear it, has KV actually STOLEN money from anyone on AZ???

Russ...

i left a negative i trader. being late puts him in the same league as Ed Prewitt????!!!!

being late is one thing. being late and having extra cues to sell before you complete standing orders is another. the cues he makes look good but i don't like the idea of me or my money being held hostage