Can someone tell me what the voting is for, and what the winner of the vote wins??? please
Vote for anyone except Austin Murphy
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Its IPT voting to see who is matching up for their next show.donny mills said:
bumpypickle said:
1. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the way he used the term "every day". If he had sustituted "everyday" it would make no sense whatsoever.
2. The vote is presumably supposed to be for who the voter most wants to see in the match. For some that will be young Austin. There are no 'rights' or 'wrongs' in who anyone chooses to vote for. Even if if a vote is for someone even less well known than Austin that's also a perfectly valid thing to do......pointless perhaps......but that's a whole different line of argument
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Guess you haven't been keeping up with the news. There's this person named Obama soliciting votes...what poor taste!Klopek said:
I agree with the opinion that these IPT challenge match are little more than an exhibition and the players are not taking them seriously.
Not trying to take anything away from Austin's game or his accomplishments, but I'm not voting for Austin because I think he would be the best matchup for one of the pros.
What I'm thinking is that there is a CHANCE that a Austin vs Top Name Pro match could be picked up by the mainstream media and be good for pool in the long run. Of course this is a long shot, but I'll cast my votes for the CHANCE of the future betterment of pool vs a match that doesn't have much meaning anyways.
Steve
Klopek said:
Not that it really matters but Darren Appleton posted this.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=92155&highlight=america
Steve
IMO that is part of the problem in pool today. If you dont tell people about something how are they supposed to know? Austin, Karl and Darren should be commended for coming to a public forum and going after what they want.Klopek said:
As for Austin actually playing, I have no opinion one way or the other due to the fact that I could care less about anything the IPT does. Personally I think the votes are meangingless anyway.
JCIN said:
I have to agree with this school of thought!
First and foremost, though, I must say that I believe there isn't a damn thing wrong with a player, such as Austin, promoting himself. In fact, it is admirable, and if he wins based on the votes cast in the IPT website, then he deserves the spot for sure.
That said, I'm sorry to express this opinion, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
I believe Gerda to be an asset to the sport. She's pretty, intelligent, and can play strong. After all, she did beat Earlie Pearlie in Orlando at the King of the Hill Shootout! So that's saying something.
However, I don't read very many pool articles about Gerda in the print media. As well, I don't read much about Gerda on any of the pool discussion boards, when compared to other pool players, men and women.
For her and the Hungarian guy (can't remember his name) to be in the number-one and -two spots is quite surprising to me. Either these two players must have a whole slew of people voting for them and there's nobody else voting on the IPT website, or the fix is in.
I just can't see the Hungarian guy and Gerda being the most popular two players that the pool public wants to see play.
Please don't misinterpret my post as saying that I don't think either one of these players are great. I like them both very much and have seen them play up front and close. The Hungarian guy is STRONG.
I just think the voting strategy for the upcoming matchup may be more reflective than you think. If the only people voting are friends of the players themselves, as opposed to the pool public at large, then says it all in a nutshell, what I am trying to say.
As far as the incorrect usage of grammar and spelling mistakes in this thread, I have no comment!
JAM
I don't get why you felt the need to do more than vote for someone else. Instead, you took an active role in trying to "hurt" another player.bumpypickle said:
I get the idea of paying dues as a player. But I don't get the need to
blatantly attempt to keep another pool player down. Regardless of whether that player has satisfactorily paid their dues in your mind. There are more than enough issues in pool to keep players down. Just look at the countless threads on how this sport suffers in terms of money, reputation, negative publicity, etc. etc. And how the players sacrifice just to stay afloat financially.
IMO, starting this thread isn't really a "pool" issue, but a character issue. To me, this type of negative campaigning reflects a lot about you. I don't give negative rep, but to me, trying to damage another person's reputation, livelihood, or passion would be just cause. As my grandma would say, "shame on you for trying to hurt someone that never did nothing to you."
If you don't want Austin to win, then don't vote for him. Period.
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JCIN said:
I disagree that these votes are meaningless. If the guy who is currently number one in the votes ends up playing then we know it was legit. No one has ever heard of him and KT would have wanted known players playing.
I don't like to hear the action report bad-mouthing the IPT. That is not very professional in my opinion.
I will be voting for EFREN REYES every day because I want a good sweat bet and I want to see a living legend play as much as possible before he is out of serious competition.
Luxury said:
How do you explain what happened to Austin's numbers last night? To me that makes the whole thing a fix.
Just because I have an interest in TAR does not mean I will not state my opinions. My feelings on the IPT have been loud and clear long before TAR was ever born.Luxury said:
If you think that the IPT is really good for pool then you and I simply disagree. Also if you expect me to pay lip service to an entity that screwed over friends, we disagree on that.
I hold no ill will towards players who choose to play in their events. They are professional pool players that is what they are supposed to do. They must make the money when the opportunities come up. I cant fault a guy for trying to eat. But there is a deep divide between the players and the organization.
The IPT are big boys. There is nothing I could ever say that would even make an impression or dent with them. But I will state my opinions when I feel the urge. Just as anyone here is free to express theirs on what TAR does.
Besides, ,what makes you think the voting is legit? If you go on the IPT's track record it does not inspire much confidence.
P.S. I sent this message 2 years ago but forgot to check the Saturday Delivery box.
JAM said:I have to agree with this school of thought!
First and foremost, though, I must say that I believe there isn't a damn thing wrong with a player, such as Austin, promoting himself. In fact, it is admirable, and if he wins based on the votes cast in the IPT website, then he deserves the spot for sure.
That said, I'm sorry to express this opinion, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
I believe Gerda to be an asset to the sport. She's pretty, intelligent, and can play strong. After all, she did beat Earlie Pearlie in Orlando at the King of the Hill Shootout! So that's saying something.
However, I don't read very many pool articles about Gerda in the print media. As well, I don't read much about Gerda on any of the pool discussion boards, when compared to other pool players, men and women.
For her and the Hungarian guy (can't remember his name) to be in the number-one and -two spots is quite surprising to me. Either these two players must have a whole slew of people voting for them and there's nobody else voting on the IPT website, or the fix is in.
I just can't see the Hungarian guy and Gerda being the most popular two players that the pool public wants to see play.
Please don't misinterpret my post as saying that I don't think either one of these players are great. I like them both very much and have seen them play up front and close. The Hungarian guy is STRONG.
I just think the voting strategy for the upcoming matchup may be more reflective than you think. If the only people voting are friends of the players themselves, as opposed to the pool public at large, then says it all in a nutshell, what I am trying to say.
As far as the incorrect usage of grammar and spelling mistakes in this thread, I have no comment!
JAM
YEAH! The IPT should let AZ do the voting. I can assure you there won't be any fixing going on.
JoeyA
Klopek said:
While your point has merrit, the implication that Austin is somehow taking food from the mouths of others is where I have an issue. The money is not anyones but the IPT's (and even that can be argued with their shady history).
A public vote is just that... simply everyone stating their personal opinion. The word deserves does not really play a role in a public vote.
Now if this was a "Tournament of Champions", your point would be more than valid. But in this current format, I say every man for themselves.
Klopek said:
Klopek......Think I understand the general principles of what you are saying but perhaps the main problem that some are having with your input is that they don't really know what you're proposing as a practical alternative to everyone being free to vote and/or campaign for anyone they wish to see. Have you anything tangible and constructive to offer in this respect? So far it's all a bit vague and no-one can see exactly what it is you would like to happen. Presumably you understand the potential difficulty of a number of things including adequately defining who does and doesn't meet the sort of criteria you are suggesting?
You have expressed a strong objection to people opining who should be voted for yet appear to have no qualms about people expressing who shouldn't be voted for. It doesn't come across as a very rational argument you're putting forward or maybe it's just the presentation of your case. Do you need a spin doctor and what would be the salary?