Vote for anyone except Austin Murphy

Klopek said:
...Your country was built on voices of dissent.

Don't be criticizing my countrymen. Besides, if it wasn't for us Americans, you Canadians would be stuck with snooker.

USA, all the way. Even Ronnie Wiseman had enough sense to leave Canada and come to the States.

JAM
 
Klopek said:
You're telling me not to criticize someone who's criticizing me?.

What the hell IS that?.

You just went down ten notches in my book.

I think what the other gentleman is trying to say is that you may be a little too harsh in your posts when you speak about Austin Murphy, an American champion in the making.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion about who you believe should be in the IPT match-up, but to promote your favorite players at the expense of demeaning a teenager, a player who is still in his formative years, is in poor taste.

You don't have to be so mean-spirited about Austin to express your opinion.

Ronnie Wiseman loves to play pool here, as do most Canadians. What a pity for the Canadian players. Hope things get better in your country as it pertains to pool. :p

JAM
 
Klopek said:
...You just went down ten notches in my book. I used to think you were a voice of reason, but you're just another flag waver to me.

Me, a flag waver? I can't imagine why you would have that impression about me! :D

JAM
 
Klopek said:
I simply stated that his accomplishments "THUS FAR" do now warrant his inclusion into this challenge match, IMO....

Now you're talking. Thanks for amending the error of your ways, Klopek. I knew you'd see the light! :)

JAM
 
Smorgass Bored said:
I voted for Nikolay Davydenko to play Andy Roddick and then Rafael Nadal.

Doug
( how'd he do ? ) :)

Just make sure to vote for "Big Brown" on May 3rd with all you got! :p

JAM
 
Klopek said:
Paying your dues means playing in a lot of tournaments and taking your share of woeful beatings. Has Austin been alive long enough to take his share of beats?.

The fact that it is Austin is largely irrelevant to this discussion. It's the principle involved. It could have been Tom Cruise or Paul Newman we're discussing, they've both held a cue and enough people might want to see them.

Let's change my hypothetical voting to the top 50 players. Would that be more hypothetically fair?.

You're gradually getting there, another several dozen moves upward in the numbers and you'll get back to the message which was already spelled out by lots of people in the beginning......after IPT had decided that their objective was to find out "who the public want to see" and after they had decided that the answer was to be obtained by a free vote there is only one number of candidates that are relevant....i.e. EVERYBODY.

The possibility, probability even, that IPT have marketing objectives connected to this exercise is really neither here nor there in the context of this. In the circumstances of it being a vote for whom independently minded individuals might want to see, any suggestion that pool fans can somehow be disloyal to a section of pool pros through their voting choices is a little over the top and inappropriate. You seem to be trying to hammer in a jigsaw piece to a place in which it doesn't fit.
 
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Klopek said:
Maybe so, but much like everyone else in this thread it's my opinion and I'm not changing it.

Well it never did Maggie Thatcher any harm so maybe there's something to be said for that......and at least everybody's being civil:)
 
Sweet Marissa said:
If you don't want to vote for someone, then don't vote for them. You don't have to share it with the rest of us. Your posts are just mean-spirited.

I have to agree with you.

I have voted for Efren, Ouschan (when she was still in it), and Earl (just to see him play Ouschan). I think its childish to come on here and whine about someone voting for a KID, when all he is doing to campaigning for himself like others are or might. I wouldnt mind seeing the kid play. Some dont want to see it happen because he might actually beat someone and most here think its bad to lose to someone younger or of the other sex.

And someone griped about Murphy being 150th on the rankings list, well Foldes is 101st.
 
Luxury said:
I wasn't worried about you making a dent in the IPT. I was worried about you hurting yourself. I want the action report to do well also. I don't believe it's good business sense to sling mud at the IPT. You can believe that it won't put a dent in your business either but as a business man I believe that losing even one customer for no good reason is a mistake.

I could be wrong. No way of knowing. I like to express my feelings too but If I had business partners I would feel obligated to agree as a team that the decision to bash the competitor was a good business strategy.
I dont see it as slinging mud or bashing. The IPT made the decisions they made and have to live with the repercussions and opinions that those decisions generate. Just as TAR does. TAR tries to make decisions based on knowing that fact.

It is not like we open broadcasts by saying negative things about the IPT or post rants on our web page. If someone chooses not to watch or buy our products because someone involved with us has a different view on a subject than they do I can live with that.
 
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