Highest paid tournament B player that I know...
In NYC I doubt that she would win at the "C" level...very tough venue.
Highest paid tournament B player that I know...
All those "why is pool this or that" threads. This is why. To most people perception becomes reality. This is a steaming pile of uselessness.
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In that article in the OP it talks about the “gender pay gap” and laments the fact that “top male pros” made $84,*** and top women made $15,800 or similar. Well I think 1 top male named Shane May have made that number but either way were talking about pro pool here where you get paid based on results alone. Pool players don’t get a salary where some misogynist could decide to pay the women less. It’s all based on your performances.
How so? I'm actually curious. I saw it by accident and I already said if those remarks were made to any lady playing in the South there would be a stern lecture in the parking lot.Emily hurt the game/sport that gave her a steady paycheck. Never bite the hand that feeds you. I lost most of the respect I had for her.
How so? I'm actually curious. I saw it by accident and I already said if those remarks were made to any lady playing in the South there would be a stern lecture in the parking lot.
I've never seen anything but respect to the gals.
I will say any of my players went up a ball if they were playing a lady. The ribbing if they lost to a gal was most entertaining!
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In that article in the OP it talks about the “gender pay gap” and laments the fact that “top male pros” made $84,*** and top women made $15,800 or similar. Well I think 1 top male named Shane May have made that number but either way were talking about pro pool here where you get paid based on results alone. Pool players don’t get a salary where some misogynist could decide to pay the women less. It’s all based on your performances.
I'm glad we're finally talking about this. I think the show has gone completely ignored by the forum. :grin:
You were doing an ok job of giving us the synopsis. As soon as you went from Cliff's notes to your opinion things go awry.
"While some might argue this is the standard jeering and one-upmanship in a sport heavy on braggadocio, pomposity, and intimidation"
Really dude? Making a "rack" comment is standard? I can assure you, it is not. So while you maybe drinking this BS Kool-Aid this program served you, real pool players aren't buying it.
I'm not sure how this is a response to my statement. I was not saying that these staged television performances highlight a problem with pool. I was commenting on how the idea of pool, which will never be seen as anything other than some glorified game of tiddlywinks to the general public, can easily and believably be used as fodder for the easily gullible, without any care for the damage done to the perception of that game. It is utterly meaningless to people. We are the only ones who actually care at all.
In that article in the OP it talks about the “gender pay gap” and laments the fact that “top male pros” made $84,*** and top women made $15,800 or similar. Well I think 1 top male named Shane May have made that number but either way were talking about pro pool here where you get paid based on results alone. Pool players don’t get a salary where some misogynist could decide to pay the women less. It’s all based on your performances.
I'm not sure how this is a response to my statement. I was not saying that these staged television performances highlight a problem with pool. I was commenting on how the idea of pool, which will never be seen as anything other than some glorified game of tiddlywinks to the general public, can easily and believably be used as fodder for the easily gullible, without any care for the damage done to the perception of that game. It is utterly meaningless to people. We are the only ones who actually care at all.
Did I read she's a professional? How is that determined?
Because in pool all you have to do is pony up the entry fee to be in a pro tournament and your a pro...
You want to know what sexism in pool REALLY looks like? Donny Mills coming back for seconds against Siming Chen, and the dudes on here insisting she's not REALLY a 790 Fargorate, because.... And then they invent every reason in the book. But I never heard a woman explicitly belittled at the table.
I'm not sure how what your saying is an argument against what I'm saying. There is nothing wrong with anything I said. There are tons of rec players playing, but most of them don't actually care about pool as anything other than that game they play whilst drinking beers with friends.Wrong! There are a lot of people - millions, that play rec pool, if I was a woman and saw this shit show I would never go to a poolroom and just keep playing in the crappy bars.
What woman would go to a poolroom if this is actually how they act? Zero
That means less date nights etc. Let's face it, it's not "us" who keep poolroom open, it's the rec players.
Quit putting this shit on TV
In that article in the OP it talks about the “gender pay gap” and laments the fact that “top male pros” made $84,*** and top women made $15,800 or similar. Well I think 1 top male named Shane May have made that number but either way were talking about pro pool here where you get paid based on results alone. Pool players don’t get a salary where some misogynist could decide to pay the women less. It’s all based on your performances.
And actually, although not for the same events, some of the top women's earnings have been as high as the top men from time to time.
Siming Chen is sitting at 47k and is in the top ten right now for 2019. And that is the real problem. The pros, in general, are not earning that much compared to the amount of travel they have to do for the money.
It is very important to note that the female players are not ALLOWED to play in a lot of the same events as the men so the performance vs. pay topic is skewed. And conversely, men are not allowed to play in any women-only events.
Pool is a sport that should be 100% genderless. There is no physical reason why a woman cannot perform as well as a man in pool that I can see.
I feel that at this point having separate events is holding them back. Maybe it's too early though. Maybe we need another 5-10 years to get more women in the top 100 in the world in order to finally say let's treat them as humans regardless of gender and have all tournaments be open to all genders.
Sorry, man, but...... I haven't seen the episode yet, and your review made me especially never want to see it. You treated it as if this were some sort of REAL thing that happened, and it was all just pure hokum. I have played pool since around 1993, and never saw a woman treated in the way described in your review, but yet... You took the show somewhat seriously????
You want to know what sexism in pool REALLY looks like? Donny Mills coming back for seconds against Siming Chen, and the dudes on here insisting she's not REALLY a 790 Fargorate, because.... And then they invent every reason in the book. But I never heard a woman explicitly belittled at the table.
That's about as far as sexism in pool goes, and that show probably hurt our efforts to integrate more women in pool, quite frankly, and you never even touched on that.
And actually, although not for the same events, some of the top women's earnings have been as high as the top men from time to time.
Siming Chen is sitting at 47k and is in the top ten right now for 2019. And that is the real problem. The pros, in general, are not earning that much compared to the amount of travel they have to do for the money.
It is very important to note that the female players are not ALLOWED to play in a lot of the same events as the men so the performance vs. pay topic is skewed. And conversely, men are not allowed to play in any women-only events.
Pool is a sport that should be 100% genderless. There is no physical reason why a woman cannot perform as well as a man in pool that I can see.
I feel that at this point having separate events is holding them back. Maybe it's too early though. Maybe we need another 5-10 years to get more women in the top 100 in the world in order to finally say let's treat them as humans regardless of gender and have all tournaments be open to all genders.