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I never said he was a bad instructor! I'm implying he's a stroke instructor, not a run out type instructor. In my earlier post I even said everyone could benefit from a stroke instructor at least once in their life. But my beef stew with how fast he turns against people who disagree. Hell,,,,,he's probably a nice guy off of this site. I so sick of this site. I'm done with it!

And your implication that he doesn't know how to run out is just as wrong. Maybe you should research someone a little before you flat out state things that are so wrong. Why shouldn't he get upset when he has guys like you calling him "asshat" on here? And stating things about him that just aren't true just to make some false point of yours?
 
I never said he was a bad instructor! I'm implying he's a stroke instructor, not a run out type instructor. In my earlier post I even said everyone could benefit from a stroke instructor at least once in their life. But my beef stew with how fast he turns against people who disagree. Hell,,,,,he's probably a nice guy off of this site. I so sick of this site. I'm done with it!

Blah blah blah you are nothing more than a SL basher. Help the thread and people that might be interested in lessons/school. ENGLISH is gone. Don't carry his torch. Don't leave the site. Leave certain threads alone.

Nice Cycle!
 
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I always worry that when a seller stomps hard and fast on his critics that there are many many more unhappy customers staying silent on the sidelines.
 
blah blah...Stomp hard and fast on my critics? No....I just don't appreciate people posting inaccurate, or downright wrong information. Don't you think IF there were "unhappy customers" they would post on the instructor review forum? Like you, it's so easy to post whatever you want to when you hide behind a screenname. Please show me anything but very positive reviews from my "customers".

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

I always worry that when a seller stomps hard and fast on his critics that there are many many more unhappy customers staying silent on the sidelines.
 
mvp...I find it quite interesting that both Mark Wilson and Jerry Briesath consider my teaching skills on par with their own. They have said so in writing, and in front of witnesses. Why would they do that, if they didn't feel that way? I certainly didn't ask them to...they offered it. I've been teaching with Mark and Jerry since 1993. Seems like that would be enough time to figure out if I was a scam artist...or not.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Neil, I like most instructors! Personally spent time with mark Wilson, nick Varner, and had discussions with Jerry breisth.
 
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I always worry that when a seller stomps hard and fast on his critics that there are many many more unhappy customers staying silent on the sidelines.

Name some or back off. An unhappy customer of any instructor is usually someone that had unrealistic expectations or did not practice the drills. Critics? Did you mean worthless bullchit posters. There is a difference between a critic and bored individual that is jealous, too broke, too cheap to take a lesson.
 
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I always worry that when a seller stomps hard and fast on his critics that there are many many more unhappy customers staying silent on the sidelines.

blah blah...Stomp hard and fast on my critics? No....I just don't appreciate people posting inaccurate, or downright wrong information. Don't you think IF there were "unhappy customers" they would post on the instructor review forum? Like you, it's so easy to post whatever you want to when you hide behind a screenname. Please show me anything but very positive reviews from my "customers".

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com


Name some or back off. An unhappy customer of any instructor is usually someone that had unrealistic expectations or did not practice the drills. Critics? Did you mean worthless bullchit posters. There is a difference between a critic and bored individual that is jealous, too broke, too cheap to take a lesson.


I'm afraid you fellows are proving my point.
 
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I'd like to thank everyone for supporting what I'm trying to do, keeping Tom's school running. I would be happy to discuss/ respond to any questions or concerns you have. My email is mfinkelstein3@icloud.com.

Good luck with the school. It'll be educational and fun. I'm looking forward to the reviews. Your students are in for a great experience. It's people like you keep pool alive and played right.
 
Tom Simpson's Pool School in NJ

Good luck with the school. It'll be educational and fun. I'm looking forward to the reviews. Your students are in for a great experience. It's people like you keep pool alive and played right.

Thank you.
 
Let's talk about the Known instructors.....such Scott (for example). Why does he keep being disputed when he has a great history/track record. Would you recommend Scott to a beginner or someone that needs/wants to learn. Would you recommend Scott to anyone having stroke flaws they can't work out on their own. Can you push the Scott button? Will you endorse him as fully qualified competent instructor?

Yes to lessons and everything else in life are not equal...car mechanics, home contractors.


I don't know why people get into disputes with Scott.

As to a recommendation or endorsement, I don't give those out unless I've personally tried and paid for a service or product.

Lou Figueroa
 
I don't know why people get into disputes with Scott.

As to a recommendation or endorsement, I don't give those out unless I've personally tried and paid for a service or product.

Lou Figueroa

You seem to constantly lock horns with him. Or am reading things wrong. So Scotts positive reviews are not good enough for you to think he is a 1st class instructor. You obviously will never use him so why do you counter him. This thread is a solicitation for pool school. It turned into the usual HiJack.
Iv'e never used Randy G. Neither did you. He's not recommendation worthy right?
Would it be possible to support M.Finklestein. If not would it be possible for everyone to leave their .02 home if they have no questions of interest for Marks school. If it were around the corner from me and timing is there I'd like to attend sometime. To everyone signed up. Have a ball ...no pun.
In reference to" As to a recommendation or endorsement, I don't give those out unless I've personally tried and paid for a service or product.". Are you an official certified product tester. If you took a lesson from an instructor and liked him what makes him right for next guy. Please explain why I or anyone would use your referrals. I have no idea who you are.... Do you have any reviews.
 
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You seem to constantly lock horns with him. Or am reading things wrong. So Scotts positive reviews are not good enough for you to think he is a 1st class instructor. You obviously will never use him so why do you counter him. This thread is a solicitation for pool school. It turned into the usual HiJack.
Iv'e never used Randy G. Neither did you. He's not recommendation worthy right?
Would it be possible to support M.Finklestein. If not would it be possible for everyone to leave their .02 home if they have no questions of interest for Marks school. If it were around the corner from me and timing is there I'd like to attend sometime. To everyone signed up. Have a ball ...no pun.
In reference to" As to a recommendation or endorsement, I don't give those out unless I've personally tried and paid for a service or product.". Are you an official certified product tester. If you took a lesson from an instructor and liked him what makes him right for next guy. Please explain why I or anyone would use your referrals. I have no idea who you are.... Do you have any reviews.

He is not an instructor, so he doesn't need any reviews. And he can play......
 
He is not an instructor, so he doesn't need any reviews. And he can play......

He's not an instructor or certified critic. He tore the REVO cue apart. Another thread that a vendor is trying to advertise and make a living and was not asking for criticism. Simply support or don't reply is what I'm saying. I'm nobody and can't play... But I respect a thread that has to do with a man or ladies livelihood. I would give Lou the same courtesy if he offers anything. Fair enough
 
He's not an instructor or certified critic. He tore the REVO cue apart. Another thread that a vendor is trying to advertise and make a living and was not asking for criticism. Simply support or don't reply is what I'm saying. I'm nobody and can't play... But I respect a thread that has to do with a man or ladies livelihood. I would give Lou the same courtesy if he offers anything. Fair enough

It's an open forum my friend. Did you read any replies in the "precision potting" thread ?
What do you think about guys telling the OP that he is full of sh...t ?

I would appreciate your answer.
 
It's an open forum my friend. Did you read any replies in the "precision potting" thread ?
What do you think about guys telling the OP that he is full of sh...t ?

I would appreciate your answer.

I did not read it. Was it simply a conversation or something being sold. I will take a look. Maybe the OP is full of soup. As far as open forums go sure everyone is invited to comment. But if it's something for sale like services or goods..... If you or anyone is selling a cue or service the people that write it sucks or blows or have no interest shouldn't they stand down. There is a difference between hijacking and a fair reply. But yes they are free to comment. Tom Wirth has a OnePocket book going. Some of the posts were... Too much, not that or that .... These were replies from people that did not read or have any desire to purchase it. Why do they feel they have to get involved. I don't need someone telling me the value of anything. Same as pool...no advice needed unless asked for.
 
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I'm afraid you fellows are proving my point.

Yes indeed!

There are so many red flags in this thread that it reads like a telemarketing script from Nigeria. Of course, we know that it's just a group of well known pool instructors/businessmen trying to make a living selling lessons. Certainly not a scam, but, IMO, a very poor business model heavily designed favoring the seller's needs and not the consumer's.

Just a few observations, none of which are personal; 1) no defined refund policy, 2) no lesson plan options (eg: half day/ one or two day), 3) advertised cost is a relatively high number, regardless of the number of hours included. 4) price...if the customer is purchasing the entire package he is purchasing bulk hours, and discounts are the standard business practice when purchasing bulk product of (almost) any product.

An observation on a more personal note: for business owners to engage in public debate in a personal and combative manner is another warning flag.

Good luck to both instructors and students.
 
I would appreciate your answer.

I stopped after the 6th post. The responses were accurate. Not a good comparison. Nothing to do each other. An amateur's guide to Potting and Scott Lee and Marks school. But point taken.

I might sell my REVO cue next month. Everyone feel free to say what a worthless piece of shitt it is...especially if you have no interest in buying it or ever owning one. Or I might take a lesson from someone here next month...feel free to bash the crap out of taking a lesson...especially if no opinions were asked for. And oh yeah...if you think SPF is not for you be sure to say it's not a good system.
 
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This is true this is a great book! BUT: Can that book tell you what you are doing wrong? NO!
Can the book do a video tape analyses of your stroke fundamentals? NO!
Can the book template a stroke specifically to you? NO!

This is book can greatly enhance your knowledge but it cannot identify problems that an individual has in their stroke mechanics.

A qualified SPF instructor can do all of those things and more.

I have the book, I have been to Mark Wilson and I have taught with Mark Finkelstein and I promise you Mark will give you everything you expected and more.

Video your stroke with I Phone, iPad etc. Then self analyze your stroke using the book as a guide. Yes it will then show you what you are doing wrong. Stroke fundamental analysis is done by yourself after video taping. The book templates an orthodox stroke and helps you eliminate the flaws you have accumulated over the years with practice and focus.
 
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