Wanted AR15 or pistol

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deanoc

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i have some nice cues
A James White 6 point
And a Bob Owen Box cue

and a new Szamboti worth around $11,000

I also have some players worth around $500 each

and one Ivory joint schontribute

also many high dollar cases

pm or call
dean
214 477 7323

my cues are first class and I am seeking
fair trades
I will not be expecting to take advantage or be taken

if you would like an honest and fair deal
call
 
Gun Show last weekend - ARs with "no name" lowers going for $2400!

Folks lining up to buy them.

Colt M4 and Sig M400's that were ~1K a month ago are now $2500 - 3K --- IF u can find one!!

ALL .223 ammo was gone in minutes.

So then I played pool......no shortage of cue sticks. :cool:

-von
 
What you have to consider is that the goal is not only to take out all AR15 types, but to take the grandfathered ones and make life so miserable for the owners that they will not want to hold on to them. Look into the details - it looks like all legal owners will be treated like ex cons on parole. There will also be an additional cost involved. I am not saying don't get one, but consider how much you will be able to enjoy it and at what cost if they succeed. If they don't succeed, then the cost will come back down and they will be available soon enough without the premium you would have to pay now.
 
Maestro said:
What you have to consider is that the goal is not only to take out all AR15 types, but to take the grandfathered ones and make life so miserable for the owners that they will not want to hold on to them. Look into the details - it looks like all legal owners will be treated like ex cons on parole. There will also be an additional cost involved. I am not saying don't get one, but consider how much you will be able to enjoy it and at what cost if they succeed. If they don't succeed, then the cost will come back down and they will be available soon enough without the premium you would have to pay now.
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If "they" succeed it will be due to people who have guns not being
willing to point them at the correct targets.

If "they" don't succeed, who really cares how many worthless federal
reserve notes one paid to get someone stupid enough to trade a very
valuable tangible asset for that worthless paper ?
 
Per request I am erasing my post.

And my interest in ever trying to help certain people.
 
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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
 
pletho said:
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
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Do you have a thought of your own??? The whole basis of "the right to bare arms" was established during the Revolutionary War. The law enabled common farmers the right to form a militia in the presence of British invasion and to have weapons "rifles" available to fend off British incursions. The NRA has rallied this idea, for they're own benefit and added automatic rifles and handguns, using this precedence as their basis. I believe that no automatic rifles or pistols are necessary in today's general society(nor should be permitted). (If you can't hunt with a shotgun or Remi semi rifle, your not much of a hunter, anyway!!!) :) This is coming from a disabled VET w/ awards from the U.S. military in the manner of MARKSMEN award, WAR TIME award, and numerous others. Today's American society needs no automatic weapons and when we, as a PEOPLE, understand that these weapons in normal society are detrimental to our well being, will begin to become a more advanced civilization as those who we appose.
 
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Although this thread got hi-jacked, I think it was worth it. Great points made here by VonRhett, Maestro, Asiasdad and JCIN.

Sharpq, I am slightly surprised by your statements. Of course, the 2nd amend was added due to, or, during that conflict. However, do you not think our forefathers also considered our future when securing that right for us? Also, it could be argued that things are not really that different now than when we needed our rifles back then...

Also, you mention "rifles" during the War with the Brit's, then go on to mention "automatic rifles and handguns" in the modern era. Do you mean to say you are against semi-auto's, or just full auto's? Of course that is splitting hairs, as you sound like you are against all of the above, but was curious since you took the time to differentiate.

Best regards to all in this thread.

PS, .45 JHP, worlds first flying ashtray ;)
 
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Although this thread got hi-jacked, I think it was worth it. Great points made here by VonRhett, Maestro, Asiasdad and JCIN.

Sharpq, I am slightly surprised by your statements. Of course, the 2nd amend was added due to, or, during that conflict. However, do you not think our forefathers also considered our future when securing that right for us? Also, it could be argued that things are not really that different now than when we needed our rifles back then...

Also, you mention "rifles" during the War with the Brit's, then go on to mention "automatic rifles and handguns" in the modern era. Do you mean to say you are against semi-auto's, or just full auto's? Of course that is splitting hairs, as you sound like you are against all of the above, but was curious since you took the time to differentiate.


Obviously, you don't comprehend my relations and observations! Half Past or whatever!!! And "NO" I don't believe our forefathers were considering our future at that time, they were considering THAT time in history. If you want a historical debate PM me, I'd love to debate you! :) Doesn't matter, just replying to Pletho.

Good luck with your thread Deono. Didn't mean to get political here!!!! :)
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"Obviously, you don't comprehend my relations and observations! Half Past or whatever!!! And "NO" I don't believe our forefathers were considering our future at that time, they were considering THAT time in history. If you want a historical debate PM me, I'd love to debate you! Doesn't matter, just replying to Pletho.
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You are correct, I don't comprehend your relations and observations. That's why I asked HONEST and SINCERE questions of you. I made the mistake of assuming you were an adult who could respond without getting her panties in a bunch. Sorry, my mistake. I wasn't trying to argue with you, nor debate, as you seem so anxious to do. I was just interested in your opinion, which I no longer am. Regards.
 
Currently there are about 245,000 "automatic" weapons in the United States that can be owned by ordinary citizens. These full auto weapons "NFA firearms" are subject to very strict control. There is a $200 tax that must be paid to own the weapon. The wait for a background check is about 6 months before you may take possession of the weapon. There is a special branch of the ATF that processes this paperwork. If idiot Fineswine's AWB goes through, all "assault rifles" will be subject to this process.

In the history of NFA ownership, there has been one documented case where a legally owned full auto weapon was used in a crime. Unfortunately, it was a police officer who murdered his wife.

In 1986, congress banned the manufacture of new machine guns. The NFA firearms that are in existence were grandfathered. In 1986, a Colt M-16 sold for about $800. Today, they are selling for around $20,000. I have bought and sold several machine guns over the years, and been able to turn a pretty healthy profit on some. We had a pair of Stoner 63's that we purchased from a collection and by the time we finished, we had netted $145,000 for the pair!!

PM me on the AR-10!!!!

Ken
 
the revolutionary war was over well before the constitution was adopted between the states and the second amendment could have no reference to a necessity that no longer existed

not only is the history lesson wrong but it has no business on my thread

i am trying to get a gun in exchange for a cue trade

the rest is a highjack of my thread,please erase your remarks and start a thread of your own

i have no political agenda in mind nor do i want all this advice here
as interesting as it might be somewhere it belongs
 
As a member of the NRA, a concealed carry permit holder and proud US Citizen I fully support the 2nd. However, I beleive it prudent for all gun owners, collectors and enthuasists to step back in the light of the CT massacre and ask... is it time to at least take some measures to enforce the gun laws already in place? Perhaps plug up some of the now legal ways to purchase weapons without a background check and consider the "real" need for high capacity military style weapons. I occassionally shoot 3 gun, love the sport and would not like the length of some stages limited due to only having a 5-10 round mag, however I have also served as a range officer at CCW training classes and will freely admit that at times I have questioned the motives of some of the students in getting thier permit. to the best of my knowledge there is no psyscological profile requirement for a CCW. If we plug the gun show and private sale of guns with at least a record of who the gun was sold to I beleive we may...just may help to prevent other events like those we have seen on the local and national level. I hate even the thought of "gun control" but prudent, mature and carefully constructed "filters" are possibly one way to reduce the violence in our society. Just my 2 cents worth!
 
We all have choice's

Protect yourself and family at any means possible or be slaves. Your choice.
and Dean looks like he doesn't want to be a slave, good choice.

Good luck Dean,here in Connecticut the stores are sold out.

What happened here in Newtown Ct. is a mental problem not a gun problem.

In Washington DC there is a mental problem not a gun problem, When they are allowed to take your guns they will still have theirs's and so will the criminals.but you won't.

Eric
 
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Truth here

shadowmoss said:
Protect yourself and family at any means possible or be slaves. Your choice.
and Dean looks like he doesn't want to be a slave, good choice.

Good luck Dean,here in Connecticut the stores are sold out.

What happened here in Newtown Ct. is a mental problem not a gun problem.

In Washington DC there is a mental problem not a gun problem, When they are allowed to take your guns they will still have theirs's and so will the criminals.but you won't.

Eric
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Eric this is 110% dead on, best thing I heard ya say.
 
i heard thru the grape vine that obama was going to put a ban on pool sticks cause they can be used as a weapon ,, git them before the prices double!! lol dean i have some ed browns les bear and wilson combats plus a couple colts
 
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