Don't play me then because I'd probably tell you.
I would always tell the person, but I'm not claiming that my way is the right way. It's probably best that I rarely gamble now that I think about it.
Was I wrong for not telling my opponent he's shooting the wrong ball?!?!
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Don't play me then because I'd probably tell you.
I would always tell the person, but I'm not claiming that my way is the right way. It's probably best that I rarely gamble now that I think about it.
You just gotta act surprised! For instance: Just as he is getting down on the 6 after he made the 5 but skipped the 4, you gotta jump up and say ," Wait a minute , Bud, the 4 is still on the table. I didn't see it either or I woulda told you. Sorry, Man." That should take care of business.
really?
You sir I wouldn't gamble with, You would not deserve my money. (If I lost)
You sir I wouldn't gamble with, You would not deserve my money. (If I lost)
My $.02
The OP obviously has guilt about the situation. IMO this is a good thing as it shows he is analyzing his actions and trying to make himself better. As far as the situation goes, the only player who was out of line was the shooter. He had no right to go off on the sitting player for calling an obvious foul. That said, the OP has got to learn to react better when folks work him over like this. It WILL happen again.
For the record, if you play me and I see you are obviously going to hit the wrong ball, or shoot at the wrong pocket, I will inform you. I do not expect anyone to tell me if I am about to do the same. I just choose to take this action on my own. If it sharks you...ok. If you don't like it...ok. If you appreciate it...ok. I do it for myself not you. It keeps me inline with my belief system. Each to his own...
The OP obviously has guilt about the situation. IMO this is a good thing as it shows he is analyzing his actions and trying to make himself better. As far as the situation goes, the only player who was out of line was the shooter. He had no right to go off on the sitting player for calling an obvious foul. That said, the OP has got to learn to react better when folks work him over like this. It WILL happen again.
For the record, if you play me and I see you are obviously going to hit the wrong ball, or shoot at the wrong pocket, I will inform you. I do not expect anyone to tell me if I am about to do the same. I just choose to take this action on my own. If it sharks you...ok. If you don't like it...ok. If you appreciate it...ok. I do it for myself not you. It keeps me inline with my belief system. Each to his own...
Okie, I agree.
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Its kinda funny,if its league or friendly people would tell the guy but if it was for the cash''hell no''.Just goes to show you people value money over integrity.If I didn't notice so be it but for me to sit back and watch the guy going to foul would make me douche-bag no matter what was on the line.I've called a foul on myself when no one else seen it because I'm a strong believer that if I didn't, that down the road I'll be in the most important match of my life,run out to the 9ball with a dead in shot and miscue.Good Karma and positive energy is priceless!
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Its kinda funny,if its league or friendly people would tell the guy but if it was for the cash''hell no''.Just goes to show you people value money over integrity.If I didn't notice so be it but for me to sit back and watch the guy going to foul would make me douche-bag no matter what was on the line.I've called a foul on myself when no one else seen it because I'm a strong believer that if I didn't, that down the road I'll be in the most important match of my life,run out to the 9ball with a dead in shot and miscue.Good Karma and positive energy is priceless!
Calling foul on yourself has nothing to do with this topic
Oh it does,it shows sportsmanship and honesty that seems to lack in the western world of billiards.To think how many people think doing the right thing is wrong speaks volumes in itself.
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No, it does not. It's not my job to tell you how to play a game. It's my fault that you can't scan an entire 40.5sqft or less? Can't count to 9 either? Not my problem. If it's for fun, sure I'll tell you.. if it's for serious, don't even think about it.
Honesty has nothing at all to do with somebody else doing what they're suppose to. Are you an "occupier" that believes nothing is their fault? Nobody takes any freakin responsibility any more and it's sickening. Good for Trigger's friend for paying people to think that way.
I can be honest to a fault, but don't go putting on your holier-than-thou coned hat just because I'm not going to tell somebody how to play the game that has BET me that they can play it better than I. Part of the game is knowing what's going on and looking at the table.. learn how to do it, it can be important.
I agree that calling a foul on yourself is good sportsmanship. This is something I practice everytime I play pool. If I foul I will tell my opponent and hand him the cue ball. However, that example has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.
Being honest has absolutely zero to do with your opponent making a mistake. Not only that but it is the player who is sitting responsibility to not tell his opponent how to play. If coaching your opponent is what you consider to be "honest" please remind me to not match up with you.
This is were your not seeing what I'm saying.I agree its there stupidity for not realizing there shooting the wrong the ball and if they feel like letting him foul so be it,but to see a train wreck approaching and sitting back letting it happen can show a person's moral compass that goes farther beyond the game of pool.I'm not saying he did anything against the rules of pool but truly believe this Question would of never of been asked if he Did tell the guy he was shooting the wrong ball.This thread now validates his decision but I personally don't.Nothing against him or anybody else,its just my opinion.
Nobody is saying they would blame their opponent for not telling them, in fact everybody on here is saying the opposite, they are just saying that when comparing telling your opponent vs. not telling your opponent, telling your opponent shows better sportsmanship.
Which act would you say is nicer? Giving to charity vs not giving to charity? Obviously giving to charity. While there is nothing wrong with not giving to charity, giving to charity is the more altruistic thing to do.
Here's a more pool related example which occurs every once in a while (I have even seen it happen among very good players). You are playing one pocket and your opponent forgets what pocket was his. Do you tell him? In no way are you required to tell him and you are being honest according to the rules either way, but to intentionally let your opponent shoot at the wrong pocket is certainly not the best way to show good sportsmanship.
Its good your an honest player but when I'm playing a guy
I want to know that I beat him by out potting him,out strategizing him and just out playing him.I know a win is a win ,but I still couldn't let a player shoot the wrong ball if I knew it was going to happen,it would really bother me to win a match like that.
Well said,I agree 100%
It really depends on who I am playing and what is going on whether I give them the heads up. If they are a good person and I feel they would do the same for me then sure, if they are a hard ass or a poor sport then its not my problem to look out for them and be a nice guy. This situation has happened many times with players doing it against me, I would say atleast once or twice a year I see someone do it. Not sure if I have ever shot the wrong ball to be honest, certainly have shot tons of bad shot choices though. 
my apology to the chinchilla
Sorry, didn't mean to ruffle your fur bringing up the "tests of character" but if you re-read my thought on the subject you will see that I do not accuse anyone of not having character and I'm certainly nobody's judge. Everything I say is just my opinion and just for fun. All I did was lay out a simple fact that, however one handles the foul issue, you cannot deny character is involved. Yes, even in a pool game.
Certainly nothing personal but, hey! If the case fits, put your cue in it.
keep it nice. Alfie
Sorry, didn't mean to ruffle your fur bringing up the "tests of character" but if you re-read my thought on the subject you will see that I do not accuse anyone of not having character and I'm certainly nobody's judge. Everything I say is just my opinion and just for fun. All I did was lay out a simple fact that, however one handles the foul issue, you cannot deny character is involved. Yes, even in a pool game.
Certainly nothing personal but, hey! If the case fits, put your cue in it.
keep it nice. Alfie
referee maybe?
Sportsmanship & Integrity
After reading this thread It makes me wonder.
In the future we might need a referee at each table.
This sport is going the wrong way if you need a referee at every table.
Sportsmanship & Integrity
After reading this thread It makes me wonder.
In the future we might need a referee at each table.
This sport is going the wrong way if you need a referee at every table.