Water and Simonis

Baby PacMan

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So my new pool table was just installed, and I was watching them. Well as they were stretching the cloth they were spraying water on it. Not that I know much about installing a pool tables, but I can't recall anything I've heard around here about it. Is that normal? Because I thought any liquid on the cloth is bad.
 
So my new pool table was just installed, and I was watching them. Well as they were stretching the cloth they were spraying water on it. Not that I know much about installing a pool tables, but I can't recall anything I've heard around here about it. Is that normal? Because I thought any liquid on the cloth is bad.

the water helps the cloth relax ....but I think it is only used in certain places where you need more cloth .... i.e. finishing the pockets ....
it can also be used in areas where the cloth was pulled to tight.

other than that i haven't heard much about spraying water ....but i'm not a prof. table mechanic but maybe it makes the cloth easier to work with for them ...
 
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Ever take a wool sweater out of the washing machine and its about two sizes to big' Then put it in the dryer and it comes out two sizes to small'. Its the wool in worsted cloths that the water makes it relax and you can really stretch the chit outa it or make it easier to stretch....only problem is that you have to get the moisture out of the cloth after your done with a iron or hair dryer...high moisture makes cloth play funny' not to bad with the 860HR... If you know the table is going to be in a high moisture area it help to use water to stretch it because it can be stretched tight one day and the next day of humidity its loose and might need a restretch...if I want to use water I hang the cloth up in the bathroom and take a shower and put it in a bag when I get out of shower.. ' .....but....if you stretch the cloth properly with the RKC system you shouldn't need water just to stretch it real tight...
The DVD on covering tables and rails is now done and will be for sale very shortly from simonis!!!!
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Rob.M
 
only problem is that you have to get the moisture out of the cloth after your done with a iron or hair dryer...high moisture makes cloth play funny' not to bad with the 860HR...

I have a huge water stain on the side pocket. Should I try the iron?
 
I would call them back out before trying anything. They are the professionals and should fix the problem. IMO
 
I would call them back out before trying anything. They are the professionals and should fix the problem. IMO

This is exactly right. There are many people out there that can put cloth on without using any water anywhere. I have never used water or damp cloths or anything when finishing the cloth on the table. It all has to do with how it is stretched before trying to finish the pockets. I would complain to the company, and do not settle until you are completely satisfied with your new table and cloth.
 
I had thought about calling the guys back. But realistically, what could they do besides recover it again? It doesn't seem to affect the balls, and it does seem to be getting lighter. I think I'll give it a few more days, I don't like to cause problems. But I understand it should have never happen in the first place. It's just such a large area, and it's only one this one pocket. I mean, if they managed to do the other five pockets with no marks, why did this one have it. Anyhow, thanks guys.
 
Water Stain on Simonis

I had a similar problem.

I tried to remove a small spill of alcohol hand cleaner from my brand new blue/green Gorina Basalt. I used a wet sponge and lightly brushed it back and forth on an area about 4 x 6 inches. Next day, there was a dark spot where I applied the water. So, I tried it again, this time in a spot about 4 inches by sixteen inches. Next day, same thing. A dark spot. The water was causing the cloth to darken. I figured what the hell, so I got a spray bottle and sprayed about a pint or more of water evenly across the entire cloth, rails and all. Then, I took a microfiber kitchen sponge and lightly wiped the cloth down using one straight continuous stroke from the head end to the foot and back.

Next day, the cloth was perfect. The water darkened it very evenly. Also, the fibers were raised a bit and had a very nice appearance. Actually, it looks much better than when it was first installed. It also played great. A month or so later, when it had quite a number of cue tip marks on it, I repeated the process. Same result. Great look and excellent play. :)

Billiard cloth is like any other large flat horizontal surface......scuff marks, stains, or any other irregularity shows up like a sore thumb. So, if you try this, don't scrub back and forth with short strokes or you will scuff the cloth's finish. Just push the sponge from one end to the other and back in one continuous motion.

Take note, I am in southern New Mexico where the humidity is very, very low. Therefore, my cloth was dry within the hour.

One other important thing......I used distilled water. Hard water, or water with a high amount of mineral content may leave white deposits on dark cloth.

Joe
 
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So my new pool table was just installed, and I was watching them. Well as they were stretching the cloth they were spraying water on it. Not that I know much about installing a pool tables, but I can't recall anything I've heard around here about it.

Is that normal?

No, it's not.
Unless they used some new brand of cloth that requires adding water. :confused:
 
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