We need AFFLUENT people to shoot pool!! đź’ˇ

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^^^^^Angel, your parents got it right when they named you. I admire your tenacity.
 

vjmehra

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You could be on to something

Not really.

Europeans aren't really that different to you guys!

Perhaps less obsessed with gambling (but of course plenty do gamble), but that's about it.

Pretty much every pool player here drinks etc.

The pro setup is probably a bit more professional, but I think its only the Netherlands where they actually receive a good level of funding.
 

Bigkat

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I may not agree with everything, but you are a POSITIVE ASSET to the pool culture!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
 

garczar

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Euro-pool image..................

I wonder why pool is so much bigger in Europe? Maybe because the players are classy, well educated, and do not smoke, drink, do drugs, or ever gamble? I do not know. Just a thought.
Ever been to Derby City? Cause if you had and ventured into the action room you'd have seen your lily-white Euro's betting their nuts off. They MAY not do much dope(kinda hard to prove either way) but as far as everything else, yep. Hate to bust your image. Barry Hearn already had a winning track-record with snooker when he took on pool. BTW, ALL his major pool sponsors have been either poker or on-line gaming related. Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't that gambling also? Face it, Euro-pool just has a nicer paint job and WAAAAY better sponsors than ANYTHING the U.S. has ever tried.
 

Bigkat

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And that's what we need!! A new "paint job". A makeover! So we can get BIG BUCKS/Sponsors
 

Mr. Bond

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Getting back to the title of the thread...
Affluent people do play pool , and there are plenty of them.
Poor people do too, and it's not a problem.

Because, there is public pool and private pool and the two are not necessarily dependent on one another.

Pro pool needs a bath and an enema.
Private pool is, and will always be just fine .
 
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BmoreMoney

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I'm not so sure about having affluent folks playing will save pool, it's image, or anything else for that matter. It's possible, but it certainly will have to be the right person with the " right skills " to not only market pool but their selves as well.

NOW, affluent folks CAN indeed help pool in a huge way though. What I am about to say I've said many times and they're folks that are gonna have a stroke - well so be it. First of all, yes the movies of course did for sure help and gave a huge bump. More so though, when the rooms are full of people in there GAMBLING, it naturally attracts many others that wanna get in on the fun ( action ). It brings newbies into the sport, brings people that had given it up out of the woodwork , etc .

It's not even a chicken and the egg type thing; when there's action in the rooms pool thrives PERIOD! This is where the " affluents " can help out the most. Now we all know for there to be action, there needs to be cheez - and plenty of it along with the people that are not NITS AND not afraid to throw it in the light. Where did tons of that money come from....... well that's a story for another day kiddies. Today we are talking about the " affluents ".

There has always been a dedicated spot for those with more money than brains or skills in the pool room. There needs to be a steady stream of " fresh " money infused into the scene and these type guys are perfect for the job! Without a nice army of FISH; young / old, rookies and journeymen, filthy rich / 3rd shift workers - we need FISH and the more the better!
 

vjmehra

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I'm not so sure about having affluent folks playing will save pool, it's image, or anything else for that matter. It's possible, but it certainly will have to be the right person with the " right skills " to not only market pool but their selves as well.

NOW, affluent folks CAN indeed help pool in a huge way though. What I am about to say I've said many times and they're folks that are gonna have a stroke - well so be it. First of all, yes the movies of course did for sure help and gave a huge bump. More so though, when the rooms are full of people in there GAMBLING, it naturally attracts many others that wanna get in on the fun ( action ). It brings newbies into the sport, brings people that had given it up out of the woodwork , etc .

It's not even a chicken and the egg type thing; when there's action in the rooms pool thrives PERIOD! This is where the " affluents " can help out the most. Now we all know for there to be action, there needs to be cheez - and plenty of it along with the people that are not NITS AND not afraid to throw it in the light. Where did tons of that money come from....... well that's a story for another day kiddies. Today we are talking about the " affluents ".

There has always been a dedicated spot for those with more money than brains or skills in the pool room. There needs to be a steady stream of " fresh " money infused into the scene and these type guys are perfect for the job! Without a nice army of FISH; young / old, rookies and journeymen, filthy rich / 3rd shift workers - we need FISH and the more the better!

Thats just more of the same, it doesn't help the game grow it just continues with the gambling culture that many want to get away from.

Professional cue sports can still have big ties with gambling, but without the backroom image. Snooker for example is sponsored by betting companies, but the image you think of is guys in waistcoats, not a cigar smoke filled room!
 

philly

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There are tons of affluent guys that are regulars in poolrooms and there are guys that haven't worked in years. That's the beauty of a poolroom, the diversity, and we have pool in common. Maybe the OP wants a gentleman's club, not a poolroom. I like the rooms the way they are.
 

BmoreMoney

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Thats just more of the same, it doesn't help the game grow it just continues with the gambling culture that many want to get away from.

Professional cue sports can still have big ties with gambling, but without the backroom image. Snooker for example is sponsored by betting companies, but the image you think of is guys in waistcoats, not a cigar smoke filled room!

Many of us WOULDN'T have it any other way!!!
 

ironsoldier71

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Golf is a boring sport. However, they found a way to market themselves. Businesses felt the need to conduct business on the course and in the clubhouse. If you can find a way to build a business model in pool that way you may be on to something.

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PhilosopherKing

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Thats just more of the same, it doesn't help the game grow it just continues with the gambling culture that many want to get away from.

Professional cue sports can still have big ties with gambling, but without the backroom image. Snooker for example is sponsored by betting companies, but the image you think of is guys in waistcoats, not a cigar smoke filled room!

snooker was born with a silver spoon in it's mouth, just like golf in the us. you can't escape your birth.

mma grew just fine without guys in pastel polos with cable knit sweaters tied around their shoulders.
 

BmoreMoney

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Nobody cares about some greasy back alley gamblers game played by low-lifes, derelicts, and criminals.
You drink, smoke and every social situation starts with, "I'll give you the 7" or "can I get
the 7"
As much as we all loved the movie, all the Hustler really did was was put in a pay
weekly SRO with a broken hands and a suicidal depressive girlfriend with Daddy issues.
It taught most parents to have us avoid pool rooms and to never let us be friends with a
guy who's first name is that of a geographical location or something similar.
Pool is a cult event at best. It'll always have a participants and a following, but not quite to the level of ComicCon
Forget it, it'll never happen

I will allow all the folks that wanna argue that gambling and a " seedy " image is bad for pool as they always do till they're blue in the face. Regardless of which side if the fence anyone is on on that one, there's one indisputable FACT that I do not believe anyone will challenge nor disagree with :

During the times when pool has been at its best ( many tournaments all over the US with great payouts, actual " tours " with huge payouts, ESPN TV coverage frequently , pool rooms seemingly on every other block, challenge tables in the front of every bar with action and a waiting list ALL NIGHT LONG, money flowing everywhere like Niagara Falls, some of the best cue makers of all time in their prime and lots of them too pumping out tons of the best cues money could buy, and on and on and on but I know yall get the idear!

So; what is the commonality you ask? - I knew you would! All of the things I ,entitled above happened concurrently AND BECAUSE OF all of the action going down in all of the pool rooms across this country. You know what I speak of; walk into just about any pool room and see every table going, each table with a stack of cheez on top of the lights. Scores of road agents roaming the countryside, and for what reason are they roaming? Well action of course silly!!!

Back to "affluent " peeps - I remember we used to have a fair amount of them that were regulars at our room. They were pretty much always business owners. I don't recall very many that could " shoot ur lights out " but more often than not they were " decent enough " shooters , with probably majority of them solid B players and a few that were a little better - maybe A speed. The almost always were gentlemen gamblers, conducted themselves in a very respectful manner and would always have a line out the door lining up to get down with them. Some were go-off artists, some were not. Some would just love to go sailing but in any case they were normally good for AT LEAST a half-stack ( $500 ) but it would be routine for them to drop $1000, $2000, or more each and every time they stepped foot in the pool room. These are the "FISH" I spoke about earlier and they are critical on a micro level for the success of the local rooms and also critical on a macro level as well because otherwise you would just have the same exact money continuously just shuffled amongst the same small group of players.

As I said earlier, this infusion of " FRESH " chicken is of the utmost importance. If they are a regular that's in there every weekend he draws people down to the local hall with hopes of getting into his pocket right good and dreams of maybe busting him out ( for the evening anyway lol ). If it's one that doesn't come in on a regular schedule but instead calls ahead to announce his eta for all interested
 

book collector

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Its hard to teach somebody that already knows everything. Next time you are out, try showing an APA 3, 4, 5, or 6 something about pool - they will tell you to get F'd with a quickness cause they already know it all.
Jason

I honestly don't know how pool instructors make it , I saw one was coming here to Columbus , I wonder if he got any students?
My experience is, that players in this town, wouldn't give you five dollars for a 4 hour lesson.
{ Unless it was Efren Reyes }, they might give him 10.
Emphasis on "Might"
Then he would have to sign every pool item they owned before he could leave.
 

Ak Guy

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Really?

The last thing I need is to be playing against more intelligent and successful people.

I have enough trouble beating the people I play against now.

Besides, they are my friends and I accept them the way they are.
 
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