We need AFFLUENT people to shoot pool!! 💡

[captainjko]

We need affluent people to shoot pool and be the FACE of pool. For example, golf is commonly known as a "rich man's game". Therefore, the regular folk always want to do what the "higher ups" are doing. That's why golf has caught on in the minority community and elsewhere. Now take pool. When someone first thinks of pool, they normally don't think "affluence" they may think "hustler or cigarette smoke" or what have you. Not exactly a good marketing tool. AGAIN, I LOVE POOL IT'S IN MY HEART. I WANT IT TO GROW. BUT IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN WE MUST CHANGE THE APPROACH IN TERMS OF ADVERTISING AND MARKETING!! GET US SOME AFFLUENT FACES!! ✔✔✔✔

What we need are more jobs for people...... There's too much free time for folks to sit and dream up stuff to post on AZ B...... But by all means, go enter the highest level of tournament you can find.... Then beat Shane, Earl, Rodney, Mike, Jayson, Skylar, etc. and become THE AFFLUENT face.... Then you can advertise and market how you feel it needs to be done......:thumbup:

 

[Banks]

Here we go again, pool needs gentlemen, no smoking establishments, blah,blah
blah. Well there were two major booms in pool in the last 50 or so years. After the
two movies. After the Hustler, pool took off. All of the do gooders said " Everyone
just ignored the seedy part and saw what a grand game it was, and wanted to play'.
" If we can just clean it up boy oh boy that will really bring them in.". Same bullsh--
after TCOM. Boy I bet if Fast Eddie and Fats would had been playing league wearing
bowling shirts, in a well lit no smoking place, and leaping up to run over and shake
hands after losing there is no telling how popular this game would be When all that
squeaky clean crap starts pool suffers. This is a gambling game with all night smoke
filled rooms full of every kind of crazy ass character. And until it goes back to that
it will stay dead. What will it take to figure that out. Sure we would all like to see
big sponsors, tv, big money. But it is not going to happen. Pool rooms made money
after the two movies that were about GAMBLING, and HUSTLING, but a lot of people
just want to ignore that just like the Liberals want to blame their loss on everything
other than the real reason they lost.
jack

You had me right up until the end where you decided to jump right into the dumb tank.

Dinosaurs will die.

 

[Chopdoc]

What pool needs is hookers and booze and given recent societal shift, we are getting a bong station too.

Let me know if you ever run for President or something...you have my vote.


Hookers and booze it is.

If anybody "affluent" shows up we'll just get more hookers and booze.


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[j2pac]

Golf catching on in the minority communities didn't have anything to do with minorities wanting to do what the "higher ups" were doing. As a matter of fact, a majority of major country clubs actively discouraged minorities from playing at their establishments. I want get too deep into the circumstances of golf catching on in minority communities, but I think you misjudged why it happened.

I think his name is Tiger.

 

[sjm]

Pro pool, at least in America, is a cuesport that is poorly positioned and, far too often, poorly presented. It's shady image is reinforced perpetually.

Anyone who suggests that a cuesport can't be repositioned in a way that makes it of general interest need look no further than snooker. Barry Hearn repositioned snooker, changing the way players dressed and behaved, improving the arenas in which competitions were held, and marketing it skillfully.

In America, there is just one pro event I've attended that is presented with the kind of dignity found in snooker and that's the Accu-Stats Make it Happen series at Sandcastle Billiards in New Jersey.

 

[Bigkat]

@sjm
I concur. Anything can definitely be rebranded if done properly!!

 

[Slim Limpy]

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[Scott Lee]

What a great platform! Black-Balled for President! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

What pool needs is hookers and booze and given recent societal shift, we are getting a bong station too.

 

[DCS_SF]

I don't have much to say on the OP besides I don't think that having more affluent folks play pool will achieve any value in marketing the game to newcomers or making it popular. Many well to do folks have tables already they never touch.

Personally I think a well run league is what brings people in. Yes you may not always get people that really get into it, but there will be some.

Also, a pool room is an intimidating place to walk into if you don't know what you are doing and unless you are hanging around a bit and shooting more than a night you aren't likely to make any new friends.

What you need is people willing to mentor younger folks, and not just the ones that come looking for them. The ones that shoot around socially. Invite them to play a fun match and show them some things. Tell them about your local league (especially if it is one that caters to new players and has a handicap). Let them shoot with a nice cue etc. It won't be an instant solution, but it will start helping.

I have come across many people at bars and told them about the local league or to come play at the pool hall. The answer always starts the same... I have always been interested but I'm not good enough. And I respond well how do you think you'll get better? It wont be on this bar table once a week or less. It's a team thing and we need players of all skill levels for a successful team. You can win trips to Hawaii, or Vegas,and money. Plus its a hell of a lot of fun. Here is the LO's number.

Walk up to that guy that shot maker that had promise but had horrible form and didn't know anything about strategy. Even the bangers. Hey you're a good shot, we should play some other time...or have you considered league?

That is how you get people interested.

 

[Black-Balled]

You got it

 

[CJH]

I don't have much to say on the OP besides I don't think that having more affluent folks play pool will achieve any value in marketing the game to newcomers or making it popular. Many well to do folks have tables already they never touch.

Personally I think a well run league is what brings people in. Yes you may not always get people that really get into it, but there will be some.

Also, a pool room is an intimidating place to walk into if you don't know what you are doing and unless you are hanging around a bit and shooting more than a night you aren't likely to make any new friends.

What you need is people willing to mentor younger folks, and not just the ones that come looking for them. The ones that shoot around socially. Invite them to play a fun match and show them some things. Tell them about your local league (especially if it is one that caters to new players and has a handicap). Let them shoot with a nice cue etc. It won't be an instant solution, but it will start helping.

I have come across many people at bars and told them about the local league or to come play at the pool hall. The answer always starts the same... I have always been interested but I'm not good enough. And I respond well how do you think you'll get better? It wont be on this bar table once a week or less. It's a team thing and we need players of all skill levels for a successful team. You can win trips to Hawaii, or Vegas,and money. Plus its a hell of a lot of fun. Here is the LO's number.

Walk up to that guy that shot maker that had promise but had horrible form and didn't know anything about strategy. Even the bangers. Hey you're a good shot, we should play some other time...or have you considered league?

That is how you get people interested.

This would be a very good start. The pool world, for the most part, is not very welcoming to beginners and people trying to learn how to play. Most decent players look down upon those with lesser skills. I'm only reporting what I have seen, read and listened to...

 

[garczar]

We need affluent people to shoot pool and be the FACE of pool. For example, golf is commonly known as a "rich man's game". Therefore, the regular folk always want to do what the "higher ups" are doing. That's why golf has caught on in the minority community and elsewhere. Now take pool. When someone first thinks of pool, they normally don't think "affluence" they may think "hustler or cigarette smoke" or what have you. Not exactly a good marketing tool. AGAIN, I LOVE POOL IT'S IN MY HEART. I WANT IT TO GROW. BUT IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN WE MUST CHANGE THE APPROACH IN TERMS OF ADVERTISING AND MARKETING!! GET US SOME AFFLUENT FACES!! ✔✔✔✔

Wake the f^*k up!! You don't know why golf became popular with minorities? Live under a rock the last 20yrs? It caught on because a brotha was whoopin whitie's ass every weekend. If it wasn't for one Eldrick Woods(aka Tiger) minorities wouldn't have given golf the time of day.

 

[John Disque]

We need affluent people to shoot pool and be the FACE of pool. For example, golf is commonly known as a "rich man's game". Therefore, the regular folk always want to do what the "higher ups" are doing. That's why golf has caught on in the minority community and elsewhere. Now take pool. When someone first thinks of pool, they normally don't think "affluence" they may think "hustler or cigarette smoke" or what have you. Not exactly a good marketing tool. AGAIN, I LOVE POOL IT'S IN MY HEART. I WANT IT TO GROW. BUT IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN WE MUST CHANGE THE APPROACH IN TERMS OF ADVERTISING AND MARKETING!! GET US SOME AFFLUENT FACES!! ✔✔✔✔

At one time - we had this... but then bad writers started writing bad books and bad movie producers started making bad movies from those bad books.

Most successful parents steer their children away from pool and the bottom line-reason is: there's no money in it, so no parent wants their child to suffer. --- If you want to fix it you have to understand why there's no money in it... and, the bottom line on THAT is: big business doesn't put their name on shady things because their own reputation is at-stake.

So here we are.... "There's no money in it because there's no money in it."

Pool is seen as a shady pastime, played in dangerous places by dangerous people.

There's many thousands of movies, and even some TV shows, that have pool tables in them, either in the foreground or background, and it's always being played by dangerous hoodlums, drug dealers, drunks, whores and murderers.

I could go on and on and on with this.... but I'm going to try to conclude by saying: Every, single successful sport HAS TO have a rooted and secure foundation in America's youth, through schools, community organizations, youth centers, etc..<===THIS is how you fix pool, but it's never, ever going to happen until we find a way to prove to these parents and these big companies that "we are not and pool is not," what they think we are.

 

[DCS_SF]

This would be a very good start. The pool world, for the most part, is not very welcoming to beginners and people trying to learn how to play. Most decent players look down upon those with lesser skills. I'm only reporting what I have seen, read and listened to...

Exactly.

Everyone here seems to want some magic bullet. A celebrity endorsement, another Hollywood film to make it cool.

Nonsense. There is a ****ing table in 90% of bars in this country. You want people to get interested beyond basements and bars? Then step outside the circle if you want to grow it. Stop making fun of people and start showing them how to shoot and not just for an easy mark or to show them how big your pool dick is. Learn how to get novices interested yourself and stop whining online about how the sport is dying because if not it's your fault.

 

[one stroke]

Wake the f^*k up!! You don't know why golf became popular with minorities? Live under a rock the last 20yrs? It caught on because a brotha was whoopin whitie's ass every weekend. If it wasn't for one Eldrick Woods(aka Tiger) minorities wouldn't have given golf the time of day.

Ever heard of Lee Elder , Calvin Pete , Lee Travino ,Chi Chi Rodriquez , Tiger did bring in a much larger group of young African American players but the ground work was planted many yrs before he came along


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[Bigkat]

@JohnDisque
Good Post !!

 

[Bigkat]

@DCS_SF
Valid points sir!!

 

[one stroke]

At one time - we had this... but then bad writers started writing bad books and bad movie producers started making bad movies from those bad books.

Most successful parents steer their children away from pool and the bottom line-reason is: there's no money in it, so no parent wants their child to suffer. --- If you want to fix it you have to understand why there's no money in it... and, the bottom line on THAT is: big business doesn't put their name on shady things because their own reputation is at-stake.

So here we are.... "There's no money in it because there's no money in it."

Pool is seen as a shady pastime, played in dangerous places by dangerous people.

There's many thousands of movies, and even some TV shows, that have pool tables in them, either in the foreground or background, and it's always being played by dangerous hoodlums, drug dealers, drunks, whores and murderers.

I could go on and on and on with this.... but I'm going to try to conclude by saying: Every, single successful sport HAS TO have a rooted and secure foundation in America's youth, through schools, community organizations, youth centers, etc..<===THIS is how you fix pool, but it's never, ever going to happen until we find a way to prove to these parents and these big companies that "we are not and pool is not," what they think we are.

Wrong Wrong and Wrong ,, 10 times the amount of movies have been made with card players being shot at the table so why is it cards are 1000 times more popular , let me help you out ,, because it doesn't take 1000s of hours to learn to compete and win money ,there is a thing you may have heard of ,, The Luck of The Draw it gives even a novice a chance to make money ,,

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[book collector]

Every time someone with money walks in the poolroom, you can hear all the broke people slurping.
Card players had 10 times as bad a reputation as pool players , then they came up with a game even idiots can be champion at, without even knowing how they did it, and voila , it's the game of kings!
Pool needs a game, where everyone is blindfolded, then you toss the balls on the table , whoever makes the most balls, in 100 shots, wins.
This would also be the answer, to One Pocket taking to long , and tournaments that take forever.
Also the wing ball falling on the break, and the soft break.
As a matter of fact, this seems like pure genius to me.
{Although I may be biased} I'm not sure.

 

[one stroke]

Every time someone with money walks in the poolroom, you can hear all the broke people slurping.
Card players had 10 times as bad a reputation as pool players , then they came up with a game even idiots can be champion at, without even knowing how they did it, and voila , it's the game of kings!
Pool needs a game, where everyone is blindfolded, then you toss the balls on the table , whoever makes the most balls, in 100 shots, wins.
This would also be the answer, to One Pocket taking to long , and tournaments that take forever.
Also the wing ball falling on the break, and the soft break.
As a matter of fact, this seems like pure genius to me.
{Although I may be biased} I'm not sure.

There is simply no game of pool that won't require skill to win nor does it have online interactive games that resemble the real game this has also helped cards big time ,, when Chris Money maker won the World Series and he said he got most of his expirence online cards boomed with online players ,

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