weight bolt remove=better feel?

dgem

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Hi, I removed the weight bolt in one of my cues. I don't know if it's just me, I felt that the cue has much better feel. I'm not talking about the balance, the cue just got more "lively". I removed and put back the weight bolt for a few times and I am certain that the feel are not the same.

Is it just me or are there any "cuemakers" explanation? Thanks. Merry Christmas to all.:)
 
i don't have any explanations for you,but i have experienced the same thing as you on a cue or two.that is why i don't put them in my cues.
 
goes to show you every cue and every person is different

really depends on what materials are used.

if you want a plain BEM player without a steel joint goodluck getting it over 18oz without adding weight.

never say never
 
The rubber bumper changes the harmonics of a cue, which coincides with the way the cue feels. The cue will vibrate upon impact, and your grip hand feels the vibrations. A very well balanced cue with high quality materials & top notch construction will resonate nicely, which means the vibrations run back & forth & back & forth & so on. It can also be heard as a "ping", "pong", "thud", etc. depending on the way the cue vibrates. Too much vibration & the cue will be uncomfortable. Too little vibration & it will feel dead. A rubber bumper was introduced to reduce noise. Brunswick actually called them "noise supressors" instead of bumpers. Depending on the size, hardness, mounting technique & quality of mount, the bumper may not interfere much at all or it can severely undermine & nullify the resonance of the cue.

Not much attention has been given to bumpers, but they are indeed a critical component, not a buttcap protector as most think. Yes, your cue certainly may feel much different without a bumper. Limb-savers are on one end of the spectrum with complete vibration dampening, and a hoppe butt with no bumper is on the other end with complete flow of vibrations. Everything else falls inbetween. I won't go into what's best because it's personal preference. But it is indeed another sub-science to be mastered if one is to master building players cues.
 
qbilder said:
The rubber bumper changes the harmonics of a cue, which coincides with the way the cue feels. The cue will vibrate upon impact, and your grip hand feels the vibrations. A very well balanced cue with high quality materials & top notch construction will resonate nicely, which means the vibrations run back & forth & back & forth & so on. It can also be heard as a "ping", "pong", "thud", etc. depending on the way the cue vibrates. Too much vibration & the cue will be uncomfortable. Too little vibration & it will feel dead. A rubber bumper was introduced to reduce noise. Brunswick actually called them "noise supressors" instead of bumpers. Depending on the size, hardness, mounting technique & quality of mount, the bumper may not interfere much at all or it can severely undermine & nullify the resonance of the cue.

Not much attention has been given to bumpers, but they are indeed a critical component, not a buttcap protector as most think. Yes, your cue certainly may feel much different without a bumper. Limb-savers are on one end of the spectrum with complete vibration dampening, and a hoppe butt with no bumper is on the other end with complete flow of vibrations. Everything else falls inbetween. I won't go into what's best because it's personal preference. But it is indeed another sub-science to be mastered if one is to master building players cues.

Thought provoking information. Thank you Eric.

How do your leather "bumpers" impact on vibration compared to the rubber ones you have used?
 
All about personal preference based on each individual cue. Some do, some don't, some think they don't have one at all but depending on the cue, It might and they just don't know it because it's sealed.
 
:embarrassed2: Oops, I just realized the question was about weight bolts. I answered about bumpers. Been a long day. I agree with Mike, it's a personal preference & most cues have weight systems even if they are sealed in & not seen.

Jim, I love the leather bumpers. Leather does not have any real vibration dampening characteristics like rubber. It's there & fills the space but does not add nor detract from the cue's dynamics.
 
qbilder said:
:embarrassed2: Oops, I just realized the question was about weight bolts. I answered about bumpers. Been a long day. I agree with Mike, it's a personal preference & most cues have weight systems even if they are sealed in & not seen.

Jim, I love the leather bumpers. Leather does not have any real vibration dampening characteristics like rubber. It's there & fills the space but does not add nor detract from the cue's dynamics.
do you have pictures posted on here of your leather bumper?
 
qbilder said:
:embarrassed2: Oops, I just realized the question was about weight bolts. I answered about bumpers. Been a long day. I agree with Mike, it's a personal preference & most cues have weight systems even if they are sealed in & not seen.

Jim, I love the leather bumpers. Leather does not have any real vibration dampening characteristics like rubber. It's there & fills the space but does not add nor detract from the cue's dynamics.

even it's out of topic, it's still a very informative post.:)
 
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