What aiming system does Tyler Skyler use?

Renegade_56 said:
If you knew as much about CTE as you claim you wouldn't even bother making stupid posts like this. I can show you a position on the table where placing the object ball and cue ball are a perfect 30 degree perception, move the object ball 1/2 ball away from that position and it is a 45 Outside, yet another half ball away and it is a 45 inside, cue ball is same location for all 3 shots. These are positions I know, but the point being during play you cannot know exactly since a 1/2 ball or ball difference can make a big difference in the result so the obvious thing to do is use some other way to verify the shot looks on, no different than feel, ghost ball, or contact point shooters do. The reason CTE players practice it so much is to learn to KNOW the perceptions at a glance, not to make balls. If you use the right perception and the system as taught, you will make the ball. Some perceptions are very obvious, others are borderline at a glance to less experienced users. Most shots I miss were the wrong perception and I didn't verify before shooting.

For someone who thinks CTE is so bad you and your squad sure try to hold it to a high standard to try and disprove it.
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This is actually pretty well written (other than the drive by insults) and brings up some interesting points that I don't think I ever heard Stan advocate. I heard somewhere that you have a good basic understanding of CAD software. ;) Can you take 10 minutes and mark those positions on a regulation table drawing? I don't have Stan's book but would be interested to see the spot you are talking about. It is interesting in light of Stan's video where he uses an A perception for all 5 shots across the width of the table. He took the video down after many years but he never said why, other than there was something wrong with it "but that it was also still right" or something to that effect.
 
BC21 said:
Looks fun. I'll try it soon.
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It is fun. But I can tell you right now it'll get under your skin and piss you off when you miss something you shouldn't have missed or didn't plan ahead for the last 5 balls to get the two points on each one. It's tougher than you might think.
 
Renegade_56 said:
see this is why you spend all day arguing with people,,, YOU CAN'T READ.

I did not say I never miss,,,,,,, I said when I miss with it (CTE) it is because I did it incorrectly.

I shoot 300-400 shots of all kinds every day, what kind meets your point, if there is one?
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See, if you make these Rosetta claims, you need to to at least specify the items you refer too.
For instance, you are stuck to SeeTee because you don't know what to do without it?
The crack in the spiel is on the one hand, the claim is:
3 angles, some presets, rectangular table, etc...

On the other hand:
Yes it absolutely, caroms, banks, combinates, slices, dices, granulates,
ALL POOL.

Duh...
 
SpiderWebComm said:
It is fun. But I can tell you right now it'll get under your skin and piss you off when you miss something you shouldn't have missed or didn't plan ahead for the last 5 balls to get the two points on each one. It's tougher than you might think.
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I did 10 racks and got 148. I'll try to do more tomorrow. Rating is supposed to be based on 5 sets of 10 racks (50 racks total). And yes, you're right.... missing a simple shot or getting way out of line really blows!
 
BC21 said:
I did 10 racks and got 148. I'll try to do more tomorrow. Rating is supposed to be based on 5 sets of 10 racks (50 racks total). And yes, you're right.... missing a simple shot or getting way out of line really blows!
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A number of years ago I asked Allen if he ever aced the test and he said no. But there was one top pro player who
did and I'll be damn if I can remember who it was. Doesn't matter, it's mind numbing to think somebody can have
the intensity and focus over that many racks to not miss one single ball, not scratch, not preplan, and have the kind
of touch to be able to leave shots that don't take trying to slice the skin off of some object balls against a rail to save the run.
 
BC21 said:
I did 10 racks and got 148. I'll try to do more tomorrow. Rating is supposed to be based on 5 sets of 10 racks (50 racks total). And yes, you're right.... missing a simple shot or getting way out of line really blows!
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I played without an ace bandage on my wrist for the first time last night. I tried one rack and made a 20 so I figure to save time I'll just multiply that by 50 and call it 1000.
 
Aiming systems have never worked consistently. All these stories reminds me of show & tell. Another book for the coins may add. Only 1 way shoot crown of tip to contact point and shoot.:)
 
RADAR said:
Aiming systems have never worked consistently. All these stories reminds me of show & tell. Another book for the coins may add. Only 1 way shoot crown of tip to contact point and shoot.:)
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Sounds like an aiming system. IT IS, IT IS! (older than the hills and twice a moldy)
 
BC21 said:
I did 10 racks and got 148. I'll try to do more tomorrow. Rating is supposed to be based on 5 sets of 10 racks (50 racks total). And yes, you're right.... missing a simple shot or getting way out of line really blows!
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I just realized something. The original rules for the Allen Hopkins Skill Challenge have 100 racks total.
What must have been done way back when this was presented to the members was to shorten it in half for
time's sake to get more involvement.
This also means the scoring for skill levels also needs to be doubled but the categories remain the same once doubled.

It also makes the 100 racks perfect score by the pro player more incredible! His category should have been "ROBOT".
 
SpiderWebComm said:
I just realized something. The original rules for the Allen Hopkins Skill Challenge have 100 racks total.
What must have been done way back when this was presented to the members was to shorten it in half for
time's sake to get more involvement.
This also means the scoring for skill levels also needs to be doubled but the categories remain the same once doubled.

It also makes the 100 racks perfect score by the pro player more incredible! His category should have been "ROBOT".
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I think this is an interesting skill test but like a lot of these things after practice you can improve your score simply by learning how to play the game better and not by actually improving. I'm not sure if getting good at this strategy is that helpful. If I want to improve at straight pool my time would be better served playing 100 racks of straight pool, same for 8 ball or 1p. I could see this as a nice brain teaser/ cross training exercise but I wouldn't bother mastering the strategy unless there were some Hopkins Challenge tournament.
 
Dan White said:
I think this is an interesting skill test but like a lot of these things after practice you can improve your score simply by learning how to play the game better and not by actually improving.
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Isn't learning how to play the game more effectively through better thinking and planning not part of playing top notch pool? It does happen that pros screw up by getting out of line and then missing, but not often and it's a big part of why they're pros and we're not. When they do miss, it's usually very costly.
What do you consider "actually improving" to be? Nothing but ball pocketing at a high percentage?
Dan White said:
I'm not sure if getting good at this strategy is that helpful. If I want to improve at straight pool my time would be better served playing 100 racks of straight pool, same for 8 ball or 1p. I could see this as a nice brain teaser/ cross training exercise but I wouldn't bother mastering the strategy unless there were some Hopkins Challenge tournament.
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The strategy and pre-thought for this is very similar to straight pool and 8 ball. It's all about planning out the angles and shots needed to be taken in advance with where the CB needs to be for the next shot and three more after it. With straight pool, which ball do you want to use and where do you want to be with the CB to open up the rack some more. Then, which ball is going to be the "break ball" for the next rack and where should the CB be to do it.
 
SpiderWebComm said:

For Christ sake! If everything I post is an insult according to you, this gets more and more absurd. It was more of an inside joke/jab for fun and if you don't get it, tough shit!

I can appreciate a good joke or jab but I don't get the "every shot straight in" thing. I do get the no pivoting thing. Maybe tell better jokes?
 
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