WHY is is so hard to just let a person present their instruction without crapping ALL over it?
Do you Jim, Lou, Patrick, and another couple guys think you are saving the world's pool players by constantly derailing the threads from those who would like to teach this method of aiming. It started more than a decade ago with Hal Houle, an unknown senior citizen who decided to offer his methods, then the attack went to the people who learned those methods, now it continues onto respected teachers and professional players who USE and teach those methods.
Do you honestly think you are saving someone from harming their game by continuing the insults and the attacks. Lou you have have called Stan Shuffett a liar, a fraud, a snake-oil salesman, a con-artist, a cheat and whatever else fits in those categories.
And Pat has done the same. JAL is doing the same thing.
What is with you guys????
Is this your personal crusade? Is there a holy grail of accepted methods that you intend to make every instructor kneel to?
Can't you simply put all your objections into one thread? I make a proposal from this day forth.
You guys put all your objections into one thread. Call it WHY WE THINK AIMING SYSTEMS DON'T WORK SCIENTIFICIALLY
Go through the systems one by one and point out all the issues you have with them.
Do it academically, clinically, scientifically. Not hateful, spiteful, insulting, demeaning, slanderous, or sarcastically.
AIMING SYSTEM TEACHERS AND USERS:
Make your own thread called WHY WE THINK AIMING SYSTEMS WORK
List your reasons and proofs if you have them. Same thing be courteous and nice.
THEN AFTER THAT - you can each post links to your threads where appropriate.
Let the teachers teach and leave them alone. Let the dissidents dissent and leave them alone. Stop making it personal. It's pool.
Can't you see that aiming pool balls isn't really important. What's important is how much we all are letting this consume us. If a person wants to make a living teaching people how to play with unorthodox methods then let him do that in peace. Why is that so hard?
It should be obvious by now that this isn't a passing fad. Whether you agree that the methods are legitimate or that they work as claimed they aren't going away. From now until the end of the forum there will be threads about CTE.
This sub forum was set up with the express admonishment to foster civil conversation and that is not what has occurred. It's time to truly declare peace. Either make your objections in a thread of it's own with details or stop objecting in every thread where people just want to teach and learn.
Lastly, nothing is stopping any of the detractors from doing their own videos showing what they feel are the shortcomings of the system. Stan has his video out there, Dr. Dave has descriptions on his website, so get a camera, go to the table and break it down. The net result should be that either the systems are shown to be incomplete or they are shown to work with the clear reasons why they work. If you really want to save the world's players from wasting their time then you should spend a little of yours making something more lasting to demonstrate your points.
But please do it with civility.