Anything over 45 Second per shot is allowed under BCA RULES.
What do you guys consider slow play?
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Caromsoft said:
If you spend around 30~45 seconds on a shot I'd not consider that slow play...
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Jay T said:
They are playing with a 30 second shot clock, so it would be hard to call what they do slow play, but I don't think it would need to be "much much slower" to be annoyingly slow.
If you have a hard shot, it is reasonable to take your time to really figure it out, but if you need over 30-45 seconds on every shot, it will become annoying to play you. I would consider someone who takes over that on every shot a slow player. People who take more than a minute per shot are ridiculously slow in my opinion.
If you have a hard shot, it is reasonable to take your time to really figure it out, but if you need over 30-45 seconds on every shot, it will become annoying to play you. I would consider someone who takes over that on every shot a slow player. People who take more than a minute per shot are ridiculously slow in my opinion.
Peer said:
Two decent straight pool players can complete a 150 point game within an hour. If it's a tight match it may go a bit over. Four hours?! I wouldn't go near anyone who shoots that slow. Unfortunately the area leagues and tourneys are plagued with people who play slow to give themselves a better chance of winning by throwing their opponent off. It's a way to compensate for a lack of skill or experience.
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Is there any other sport where a player can take 15 minutes before putting the ball (puck, shuttlecock,arrow, bullet, etc.)in play?
Well said and very unsportmanlike.poolmouse said:
Fast Lenny said:Im glad i hit the nail on the head.If you enjoy league then thats fine,i know there are alot of league players on here,but it doesnt just do it for me.The reasons why are that the competition is fairly weak,i would say 90-95% of the players are all weak C players and thats ok they are learning but yet some of them have been playing for 30-40 years.
I also dont like the etiquette,they will stand around the table while you shoot sometimes in front of the pocket you shooting at,hooting and hollering at times instead of being quiet,sometimes its the whole team doing this.
The knowledge of pool can be sickening when you can have some teams who together as a whole could not equal the ability and pool IQ of most tournament players/money players.
I dont like the fact that they get ripped off by their leagues money wise,its a good business for whoever has that area and the players seem to be shortchanged very often.
Thinking that its real pool playing on some of the equipment in those dingy bars is frankly a joke and most serious players cant stand that type of equipment where it balances things out,one of the funniest things i heard from a league player was playing the rolls of the tablemi had to laugh,why should you have to?I think alot of the leagues if they were smart would make bar owners have equipment level and up to par,but what do alot of them care,just make money of the league players who alot of them dont know the difference whether its good equipment or bad anyway.
Its kiddy pool,if you put alot of these guys on the big table they are lost,i have had countless 7s from the APA and whatnot beat their chest and then play on a 9 footer saying there is no difference and they are pulled apart,the flaws and position and safety play starts showing up and they are toast.
Next time your at league ask around who the best player is in pool right now and also deceased and see the comments you get,you will hear alot of Minnesota Fats.
I cant say i have anything against league play but i just dont like the sandbagging,bad equipment,bad ediquette,being ripped off by the league owner,and unsportmanlike conduct either,plus playing for Vegas doesnt do anything for me either because i live close enough to drive.
As for your comment saying F U to me it shows exactly the attitude im talking about,you saying you will do whatever bothers your opponent is also something that is undesireable.You do that slow playing in a money match then you will have less people playing you,nothing wrong with taking your time but being slow as a snail to irk your opponent is uncalled for.If you do make it out to AZ then we will play for certain and you can take all the time you like,smoke a cig,go to the bathroom,do a shot i dont care,i dont rattle that easy,i have already played coming up with the slowest player in NY!Im very patient and calm,but when i get to the table i wont be playing slow,it will be quick and painless,you will think i raked the balls in the pocktet.
Sorry if i offended any of the league players out there but im sure those of you who are league players and knowledgeable know what im talking about,you fall in the 5-10% im speaking of.
some leagues may be like that. I do know what your talking about however some leagues are done right. The one I play in is done right
BTW.. its the same league that produced SVB the C&N sales VNEA league it spreads from eastern South Dakota through southern Minnesota, northern Iowa and parts of western Wisconsin.
They do it in what I consider to be the right way. there are 4 leagues
Ambassadors, Senators, Commanders, and Presidents. Presidents being the Best. you pay $3-$5 ( depending on the league) plus quarters and you are paid back 10 cents per point you score. in the lower leagues a perfect score is 30 in Presidents a perfect score is 50. (3 games vs 5 games) Bottom line if you win all your games you get all your money back.
The lower 2 leagues are the type you refer to drunk buddies shooting pool for a night away from home its more about a good time than it is about shooting pool.
In the top two leagues its a different story. EVERYONE is a threat to run out. and they are there to shoot, not to drink.
The company that sponsors the league owns all the tables. and they drop in weekly to re level the tables and of course drain the quarters. they are the best maintained bar boxes you will find.
The "Bar Bangers" in my neck of the woods have a stroke.
and just to throw this in the mix SVB competed recently in Fairbault against the local "League Bangers" and didn't place in the top 12. and that was late last year when he was the "World Beater"
I'm just saying...
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Now that I have had to remove half a dozen posts for language, Softshot....
see ya in 2 weeks.
see ya in 2 weeks.
SLOW PLAY means not gettting it up in time.
Slowplay
kind of like a dripping shower when trying to go to asleep at 2 in the morning, or a nagging woman that just will not shut up, but mostly
envisioning a Dentist with a drill, whirl ... whilrl, saying, 'This is going to hurt some, so brace yourself, but the drill takes forever to get to your teeth'.
Kind of like that!!!!
Being the dirty ole man I am, I always have stray thoughts about the women pros, well some of them anyway, and wonder if they have sex like their preset routine and stroke go!!!!
kind of like a dripping shower when trying to go to asleep at 2 in the morning, or a nagging woman that just will not shut up, but mostly
envisioning a Dentist with a drill, whirl ... whilrl, saying, 'This is going to hurt some, so brace yourself, but the drill takes forever to get to your teeth'.
Kind of like that!!!!
Being the dirty ole man I am, I always have stray thoughts about the women pros, well some of them anyway, and wonder if they have sex like their preset routine and stroke go!!!!
Caromsoft said:
As far as I'm concerned time spent in the actual process of shooting isn't slow play, no matter how long it takes. It is the time between shots when the shot is so obvious it hurts, yet your opponent studies and studies and studies the layout. Ralf Souquet comes to mind, that is slow play. I don't think Allison & Karen take a lot of time, they take a reasonable amount of time. Generally I find good players might take a bit of time before their first shot, but once they start it is just one shot after another unless they get a bad roll or screw up.