I made a true sneaky for a guy one time. I took a budwiser cue...you know the ones with the pin in the shaft. Then I bored the entire forarm and into the handle out and replaced it with good maple. Then took the brass collar and bored it to a sleave over phenolic. 3/8x 10 with a good solid joint and a good shaft with Juma ferrule and a layered tip. A little playing with the weight in the butt and he had a very sneaky good playing cue. I mean not custom level but better than any players cue out there. No one would suspect this guy with his 10 dollar budwiser catalog cue. lol. Thats a TRUE sneaky. :smile: