What if pool had NBA levels of money involved?
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We could get there, but for that to happen Pool Rooms would have dust off the bad image and be the new decent
place in town for recreation. I did a little research for that book and Pool has changed a lot over time, what is to say
that Pool or a variant of the old business couldn't be the new gathering place in a lot of towns.
sorry but pro pool will never be a high paying sport like the nba svb and effren have raised the bar for aspiring young guns but we have one big problem education im sorry to say is the real reason pool has not became a million dollar sport. svb tried college to become a game worden but decided he like cash better. i believe a national college league and a international qualification process would be what mosconi cup should be about why do you think the olimpics have kept pool out.. if everyone one could give this topic some honest thought maybe we could be what we think our great sport could be
Basketball has a history of activism in the United States,
Today the NBA is embraced by world governments and leaders.
Dennis Rodman is a North Korean state guest.
Pool has its characters, to tell their story it has to be done in current mediums.
NBA is amazing at organization in terms of delegation. Everyone has the same tools, just find talent and develop it. At organization meetings players make adjustments,
In terms of pay structure NBA endorses and finances the college model. Supporting US higher education programs and institutions is needed in the communities of low income. Anyone near a pool table can learn how to run a 9 ball rack.
NBA sets the standards and lets players find their way in.
Billiards still uses the same guys from the 70s to promote the game. Billiards is making waves with potentially the first all senior citizen global tour.
Pool events can now give awards for oldest and youngest competitor in both gender categories.
To be more like the NBA pool players can choose a personal public statement or country affiliation.
If China can do to billiards what it does for the NBA in China, then Heyball is worth it.
The NBA does have less endorsed alternatives leagues. A lot of people can run a basketball league. Pool no one wants to be part of a global league. A global agreement to help make travel easier or finances. Some organizations prefer to avoid direct payment transfer, its better to have proxies.
NBA has better accountants.
Today the NBA is embraced by world governments and leaders.
Dennis Rodman is a North Korean state guest.
Pool has its characters, to tell their story it has to be done in current mediums.
NBA is amazing at organization in terms of delegation. Everyone has the same tools, just find talent and develop it. At organization meetings players make adjustments,
In terms of pay structure NBA endorses and finances the college model. Supporting US higher education programs and institutions is needed in the communities of low income. Anyone near a pool table can learn how to run a 9 ball rack.
NBA sets the standards and lets players find their way in.
Billiards still uses the same guys from the 70s to promote the game. Billiards is making waves with potentially the first all senior citizen global tour.
Pool events can now give awards for oldest and youngest competitor in both gender categories.
To be more like the NBA pool players can choose a personal public statement or country affiliation.
If China can do to billiards what it does for the NBA in China, then Heyball is worth it.
The NBA does have less endorsed alternatives leagues. A lot of people can run a basketball league. Pool no one wants to be part of a global league. A global agreement to help make travel easier or finances. Some organizations prefer to avoid direct payment transfer, its better to have proxies.
NBA has better accountants.
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NBA has tens of thousands of people willing to pay several hundred dollars to attend a single game.
and there are 30*30*3 = 2,700 games per season/year.
If professional pool had those tens of thousands of people wanting to attend 2,700 tournaments per year,
Professional pool would have no money problems.
So, it is not the accountants, it is the fans (NBA has them, pool does not)
C'mon. They need 10 guys to deal with one jumbo ball and can't do it without millions paying attention.
The NBA does a horrible job at diversity,
Very few Asian countries are represented in the sport.
There is a grooming culture at the big schools because of the NBA donors.
Pro basketball is the most segregated sport. Its mostly American and European players. They mostly look the same and have the same physical description.
Basketball is the ultimate selection process started during WW2. The superior athlete is black.
Very few Asian countries are represented in the sport.
There is a grooming culture at the big schools because of the NBA donors.
Pro basketball is the most segregated sport. Its mostly American and European players. They mostly look the same and have the same physical description.
Basketball is the ultimate selection process started during WW2. The superior athlete is black.
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great damn question!
and ‘bbb’ i hear you
‘what if’ questions can be just awful
like what if babe ruth played
baseball today
i have my answer, here’s the beginning
they won’t be spending money
on the same things
because they aren’t nba players
they are pool players
but if earl was making 20 million
a year in his prime, appearing in
music videos and feature films,
giving a voice to local and national
politcs, jet setting around the world
to fabulous locations and amazing
crowds with trick shots and road stories-
while making many many more millions
selling earl shoes and cues and weights
and shirts and glasses
i think he’d be opening a pool university
with scholarships available to millions
of children
(edit- such a good question, i lost
focus- earl would be opening pool
centers, and pool universities,
and pool camps and pool focused
social parties and pool bars
because a vast number of people
would be lining up
because he’s that kind of person
he just hasn’t had jordan and lebron money
yet
and ‘bbb’ i hear you
‘what if’ questions can be just awful
like what if babe ruth played
baseball today
i have my answer, here’s the beginning
they won’t be spending money
on the same things
because they aren’t nba players
they are pool players
but if earl was making 20 million
a year in his prime, appearing in
music videos and feature films,
giving a voice to local and national
politcs, jet setting around the world
to fabulous locations and amazing
crowds with trick shots and road stories-
while making many many more millions
selling earl shoes and cues and weights
and shirts and glasses
i think he’d be opening a pool university
with scholarships available to millions
of children
(edit- such a good question, i lost
focus- earl would be opening pool
centers, and pool universities,
and pool camps and pool focused
social parties and pool bars
because a vast number of people
would be lining up
because he’s that kind of person
he just hasn’t had jordan and lebron money
yet
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YouTube sponsors pay from 1 cent to 5 cents per view if you negotiate.
Lets say we negotiate 3 cents per view.
We front the cost of production and get 50k views---50k x .03 cents per =1500 dollars.
That isn't going to get it for a sponsor. The need millions of views.
1 million x. .03 cents= 30,000 dollars and you have to sell them some merchandise.
Not moving the needle on sales won't be tolerated by a sponsor who is in it to make money.
I figured out a way to make it work, but a corporation needs to be interested in the demographic first and then
you have to get them interested in your plan to make it happen and everyone involved needs to be paid.
It's a tough business, but its doable if anyone is truly interested.
Lets say we negotiate 3 cents per view.
We front the cost of production and get 50k views---50k x .03 cents per =1500 dollars.
That isn't going to get it for a sponsor. The need millions of views.
1 million x. .03 cents= 30,000 dollars and you have to sell them some merchandise.
Not moving the needle on sales won't be tolerated by a sponsor who is in it to make money.
I figured out a way to make it work, but a corporation needs to be interested in the demographic first and then
you have to get them interested in your plan to make it happen and everyone involved needs to be paid.
It's a tough business, but its doable if anyone is truly interested.
It's the National (United States) basketball league made up of teams in the United States. It isn't their job to strive for across section of the entire planet. Are you really bagging on a league that is dominated by people who are a minority group in the countryside? Stop making every thread about diversity or computer games.
Funny and True LMAO
Dreams are nice but reality is just that. Pool's reality is that it is on a slight upswing as a professional sport, more in line with other niche sports in terms of monetary rewards.
I'd be thrilled to see Pool reach the level of the secondary pro tours in golf and tennis, where prize finds are in the 500K range and the winner receives 100K. That may be within reach soon.
In the long run, there is no reason to think it would be any different than baseball, basketball, football, or socker stars, not necessarily in that order.
The short run , would probably be devastating.
I just watched a video where a 13 year old kid , got to the death screen on Tetris after 34 years of people playing trillions of games or more.
He practiced 3 to 5 hours a day for a whole 2 years. The world is in shock and awe. He is on every news channel in the world.
Have a wonderful day , and try not to think about money too much, it gets depressing.
Saddam Hussein, had a fleet of tractor trailers, loaded with skids, full of real US hundred dollar bills . even that much wasn't enough, to just keep him alive,
I hope that money went to help the less fortunate.
I'm sure it was just a fantastic coincidence, but when I typed the Saddam part at the end , before I even posted it, my camera app came on ,and took my picture, which I immediately gave the middle finger to, just in case it wasn't coincidence, lol .
In an alternate universe....I have the vision of a hawk and I am the MJ of pool.
Now for the reality of that kind of money in pool....Agents would be ripping off the players...lots of bad investments.....lots of DUI stops and "clubbing" incidents on the news......many many baby momas wanting child support...and a few mysterious disappearances after not "dumping".
Now for the reality of that kind of money in pool....Agents would be ripping off the players...lots of bad investments.....lots of DUI stops and "clubbing" incidents on the news......many many baby momas wanting child support...and a few mysterious disappearances after not "dumping".
When the US government says it wants its best astronauts and scientists in the 40s and 70s they were only talking about the best of the college middle class white group. Same goes for historic Olympic participation in basketball it was for whites only. Now address it.
Today the best in most fields are women and that includes coaching, reffing, organizing and promoting.
I follow Emily Frazer. She manages multiple global sports. I just do that as a fan at a much smaller school but about the same player roster size.
The best conditions allow for the best players to organize and compete under world nineball the WNT. Very different than the WPA.
WNT is about representing people from all over the world. Emily's vision is more significant than any man involved in billiards.
She is commercializing pool players by event and contract. It is a revolutionary model with evidence of limited success.
Emily makes Kevin Trudeau look like a cheap hack. Her annual increases in event signups or player contracts or prize payouts or event location has put WPA on edge.
As a business woman Emily would be the NBAs top recruiter, promoter, advertiser, operations officer, onsite event leader, social media officer, and player response manager, ...
Emily would paid ten times what the top billiard player makes in NBA. NBA some coaches are better paid than players. Even the trainers for practice get better salaries than the hired players for a few practice sessions.
My experience working in higher ed plus my pool interests and social media interests are maturing and converging in my
middle age. I have plans, BIRPA demo soon, there will be animatics. I took pro storytelling film classes and have been practicing their techniques. i did budget film school.