What if they had a raffle...

Monto P2 said:
Experience,maturity and inteligence are virtues which god gives and even some seasoned posters might not have it

Intelligence has the letter L in it twice. Literate has it only once

Your maturity, and experience on this board would be well served
by paying close attention to the seasoned posters, especially those
with lots of I-trader.

Krbsailing gives you the 6 ball in ethics.

Danny
 
GoTulane said:
And nobody complained.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :eek:
Well if you Rafflers stopped there wouldnt be any arguing right?? So stop all AUCTIONS or RAFFLES and wala..................................:eek:
 
The King said:
Not a bad guy just someone with an opinion ... Not everyone agrees with you of course but then we are individuals and are capable of making up our own minds, or at least most of us are. So for that reason the raffles will continue rather you agree or not. Just as sure as the gambling will here on AZ and the posting of the wrong material in the wrong threads. I honestly believe the raffles will die out they are starting to now ... But I also believe they will come back and will be off and on unless someone steps in to stop them... Just as the gambling has ... The only thing I have seen that the mods don't agree with is posting the wrong material in the wrong threads that is the only thing I have seen them take action on.That and some posters that needed to be banned....


And I have also seen some of these people that get on here and complain about the raffles turn around and get right in a raffle if the cue was nice enough ... I was kind of surprised at some of the names on the raffle thread of the Gina cue ...lol... Guess that was to tempting for some of the anti rafflers to pass up....
The only people that are arguing this point are the people who are trying to get GAS money threw RAFFLES...........:eek:
 
We'd miss you!!!!

pooldogue said:
Well if you Rafflers stopped there wouldnt be any arguing right?? So stop all AUCTIONS or RAFFLES and wala..................................:eek:
If there were no raffles, then what would make you post? And we would miss you, and your insight. :rolleyes: And I would place a bet with you that arguments would NOT end when the raffles do. There were arguments here before the raffles, and there will be after their demise. Just a fact of life.

What has any raffle done to you? Do you have a cue for sale on the forum? Will you put one up for sale at a good price? That is the way to kill the raffles - good cues at good prices, and people won't gamble as much. But who knows? But I was looking for your cue sale that has been stomped by the raffle craze, and now I was wondering where it might be? I can't find it.
For or against raffles, They are here now, and might be here for a while. And the legality question and the pushing stuff off the first page complaints are not given any weight around here, from what I have seen. Rafflers will just bring about their own demise by continuing to push the envelope, until it goes too far. Just wait and see. So keep on stomping, because it is quite entertaining. And we would miss you if you didn't.

Michael
 
all i know is that if i wanted to go buy a cue for 1000 or more dollars i could as well as tons of other people on here.

But i find it kinda fun to spend 10 or 20 bucks and "gamble" a little and wait for the numbers to draw out on power ball to get a nice cue for cheap

If i didnt find it fun i wouldnt buy a #
Even if the raffler dude make 50 or 500 extra dollars because he raffles it, more power to him. then that just means he marketed his cue better and if people fill the raffle then there cant be too much wrong with it. Im sure they read about what they bought in for before they paypal their money to someone.

Either way i will probably buy and sell cues with or without a raffle. It all depends on which way I could make more money with
 
GoTulane said:
You might want to get your facts straight - it did not fill, but had 33 spots left when it was pulled. It might have filled up, but who knows, I am not psychic. So it is everybody's own opinion if the raffles are here to stay, or a passing fancy. Nobody knows for sure, but while they are here, they are here, and everybody will have an opinion. Of course opinions are like a$$holes, everyones got one, but they all stink.
And we will all have to live with them, and with their effects on the cue market as a whole.

Michael

My apologies....I was told by a friend it'd filled. I didn't check myself. That'll teach me. LOL Sorry guys. Carry on.
 
GoTulane said:
If there were no raffles, then what would make you post? And we would miss you, and your insight. :rolleyes: And I would place a bet with you that arguments would NOT end when the raffles do. There were arguments here before the raffles, and there will be after their demise. Just a fact of life.



Michael
Another quality post by you sir??:rolleyes: Now i didnt see anything that says you made a donation to help this sight better itself ?? :rolleyes: Another expert opinion i needed to see!!!!!:eek:
But i bet you have no problem "RAFFLING" YOURE WARES RIGHT??
Put the raffles somewhere else and i will be happy along with all the well respected members that ARE legitimately selling there cues and cases here and are being pushed back page by page by these ridiculous RAFFLES.........Hell i have even seen people fouling up their RAFFLE prices and creating multiple threads............:eek:
 
Get your facts straight!!

pooldogue said:
Another quality post by you sir??:rolleyes: Now i didnt see anything that says you made a donation to help this sight better itself ?? :rolleyes: Another expert opinion i needed to see!!!!!:eek:
But i bet you have no problem "RAFFLING" YOURE WARES RIGHT??
Put the raffles somewhere else and i will be happy along with all the well respected members that ARE legitimately selling there cues and cases here and are being pushed back page by page by these ridiculous RAFFLES.........Hell i have even seen people fouling up their RAFFLE prices and creating multiple threads............:eek:

I tried one raffle, and it didn't even get one person entering it within 24 hours, so I pulled it. So I guess I should be against the raffles with that attitude? Raffling is just another marketing technique to sell cues - if it works- GREAT, if it doesn't, that is OK too. People need to stop whining and find a way to better market their cues, cases, and billiard equipment in order to compete. Don't HATE - COMPETE!!!! It is a DOG EAT DOG world out there - whining never got anybody anywhere, except for on page 2.
I see you didn't want to answer the second part of my post. Why not?

So your $$ donation makes you a better member than me on the boards? Great opinion, but it is just that. THAT makes you the EXPERT on what should be in the Wanted/For Sale forum, when I see ONLY ONE I-trader by your name. Seniority and $$ does not insure the better opinionated person - just lets me know you have more disposable income, and found the site before I did. GOOD JOB!!
Maybe YOU need to find your true section of the forum - NPR or the Main Forum - since I haven't seen you sell anything.
And to question your other point - I believe I am one of the many well respected members on this forum who legitimately sells, buys, and trades wares, and I would rather you not speak for me - I have my own voice and can speak for myself. And I would also believe that many of the other well respected members on AZB can also, so I am just wondering why you have so much free time on your hands to just complain? Take some of that energy and sell something, because that is the only way to kill the raffles on the FOR SALE FORUM.
WHINING just continues to fuel their fire - AND KICK LEGITIMATE SALES(your term) off the front page.

Michael
 
ridewiththewind said:
Here is WA a raffle can only be held by a non-profit organization...a pool league would be an example of such. As any non-profit must register with the Secretary of State (WA), so must the non-profit register and apply for a permit to hold a legal raffle. Here, raffles are consider to be a form of gambling.

I know this because I was the secretary for my league one year, and had to do just that, and read through the Washington Code thoroughly.

Lisa

Lisa,
A non-profit organization... could be any pool hall. :D

JV
 
GoTulane said:
I tried one raffle, and it didn't even get one person entering it within 24 hours, so I pulled it. So I guess I should be against the raffles with that attitude? Raffling is just another marketing technique to sell cues - if it works- GREAT, if it doesn't, that is OK too. People need to stop whining and find a way to better market their cues, cases, and billiard equipment in order to compete. Don't HATE - COMPETE!!!! It is a DOG EAT DOG world out there - whining never got anybody anywhere, except for on page 2.
I see you didn't want to answer the second part of my post. Why not?

So your $$ donation makes you a better member than me on the boards? Great opinion, but it is just that. THAT makes you the EXPERT on what should be in the Wanted/For Sale forum, when I see ONLY ONE I-trader by your name. Seniority and $$ does not insure the better opinionated person - just lets me know you have more disposable income, and found the site before I did. GOOD JOB!!
Maybe YOU need to find your true section of the forum - NPR or the Main Forum - since I haven't seen you sell anything.
And to question your other point - I believe I am one of the many well respected members on this forum who legitimately sells, buys, and trades wares, and I would rather you not speak for me - I have my own voice and can speak for myself. And I would also believe that many of the other well respected members on AZB can also, so I am just wondering why you have so much free time on your hands to just complain? Take some of that energy and sell something, because that is the only way to kill the raffles on the FOR SALE FORUM.
WHINING just continues to fuel their fire - AND KICK LEGITIMATE SALES(your term) off the front page.

Michael
Back to page one for Mr. Tulane and the man with no stupid I-Traders ..:rolleyes: Youre kidding right, what a joke ,I-Trader thats all ya got !! I have and will buy and sell here but under or above the boards as they say and actually if i caught Tank i wouldnt have any at all, i bet you really would have been mad then huh ??
Im just saying if you buy and sell here SO MUCH and dont care about anything else , make a small donation to the site and amke it a better place, than just sitting back voicing youre opinion..........
As for more for sale items "killing" the raffles" i seriously doubt that is going to work .....:)
 
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