What if you put a Predator Z-2 shaft and a Kamui Black tip on a Walmart stick?
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a semi expensive walmart stick...
There have been people that do this as in a hope of hustling.... Don't know how successful they would be... probably less successful than playing with a high end cue pretending to be a lawyer or something that doesn't play the best but likes to gamble...
How many people are going to walk into a bar with a walmart cue and want to play 500 dollar sets???
Jaden...
There have been people that do this as in a hope of hustling.... Don't know how successful they would be... probably less successful than playing with a high end cue pretending to be a lawyer or something that doesn't play the best but likes to gamble...
How many people are going to walk into a bar with a walmart cue and want to play 500 dollar sets???
Jaden...
Assuming you like Z2 shafts and kamui tips i think it would play really well.
Is this a riddle?:smile
epending on if the butt of the cue was painted with Latex or semi-gloss ,you would have a piece of s..t with a good shaft.Then again,if it hit well and you liked it then it wouldn't matter what anyone says including me.Atleast Walmart has a great exchange policy
There are some Walmart cues that a z-2 and Kamui tip would work pretty nicely on.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Schon-Billiards-STL-8-Pool-Cue/12351583
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Schon-Billiards-STL-8-Pool-Cue/12351583
I forgot Walmart in the states carry Schon.I live in Canada and the cues at are Walmart are used for tomato stakes
According to Predator and Kamui you would have a great cue. Add some Kamui chalk on it and you should have a zero deflection point-and-shoot cue.
If the weight and balance is to your liking, I think it would play very well too. Shaft and tip, in my opinon, count for about 85% of the cue's performance.
tried just for grins
I had my cue shop up and running a few years back and my sister had picked up one of the very cheap Budweiser cues in a garage sale. Cue and authentically torn vinyl case, $3.00.
I swapped out the plastic collar on the butt for phenolic and doweled the pin area installing a quality pin the same size as the one that came out. Then I built a shaft, all quality components including a moori tip. While the importance of the cue components normally runs the closer to the tip the more important, first the tip, then the ferrule, then the shaft, then collars/joint, then the butt, and even the bumper, that is only true when the components are roughly the same quality. When you stick nice collars and shaft forward on a really junk butt you still get a cue that hits like junk! It was playable but still felt like a $3.00 cue.
Incidentally, I brought it into the local pub with a half dozen bar tables where I wasn't known and people immediately crowded around to see my hustler cue. You can't put a layered tip on a cue these days without spilling the beans. I haven't given up yet though. I am debating between the cue with the rolling dice in the butt that roll every time you stroke the cue or the butt with the chaser lights that run around the cue in front of the buttcap every time you hit the cue ball. I favor the chaser lights but am afraid they might lead to physical violence if I bring the cue in Buffalo's!
Hu
I had my cue shop up and running a few years back and my sister had picked up one of the very cheap Budweiser cues in a garage sale. Cue and authentically torn vinyl case, $3.00.
I swapped out the plastic collar on the butt for phenolic and doweled the pin area installing a quality pin the same size as the one that came out. Then I built a shaft, all quality components including a moori tip. While the importance of the cue components normally runs the closer to the tip the more important, first the tip, then the ferrule, then the shaft, then collars/joint, then the butt, and even the bumper, that is only true when the components are roughly the same quality. When you stick nice collars and shaft forward on a really junk butt you still get a cue that hits like junk! It was playable but still felt like a $3.00 cue.
Incidentally, I brought it into the local pub with a half dozen bar tables where I wasn't known and people immediately crowded around to see my hustler cue. You can't put a layered tip on a cue these days without spilling the beans. I haven't given up yet though. I am debating between the cue with the rolling dice in the butt that roll every time you stroke the cue or the butt with the chaser lights that run around the cue in front of the buttcap every time you hit the cue ball. I favor the chaser lights but am afraid they might lead to physical violence if I bring the cue in Buffalo's!
Hu
I highly doubt they carry them in the store. The Schon cues are only available online I believe. I've only seen SportCraft cues in a Wal-Mart store.
Wish I could remember the cue maker but a very recognized name used to make budweiser conversions... He would core them and put a new joint, pin and butt cap on them put on a good coat of clear and would build a custom shaft for them... I want to say they ended up between 200-300 bucks
It all depends on how well made the particular handle is.
I have a couple of Walmart brought cues.
One is just junk, the other is ok.
Neither of them are what I call a well made handle, neither of them have a good feel and hit.
If you can find one with a nice ring to it instead of a donk , that will be a step in the right direction.
bought a $40 Dufferin that played just fine
When I needed a shaft for my Meucci back in the late eighties or early nineties I went to a department store or big sporting goods store that stocked a few dozen jointed Dufferin cues, full splice wrapless if I remember correctly. I selected the best shaft I could find and bought the cue. The joint diameter was as good a match as most replacement shafts and the shaft played just fine on either butt. Does have to be noted that the cue was a Meucci from the early eighties with the noodle shaft that few would like the hit of today.
The issues with the Budweiser cue seems to be a very light soft wood handle and a loose thread wrap. The wood resembles poplar and I don't think there is any way to get a decent hit out of it other than a full core job as mentioned in another post.
Hu
When I needed a shaft for my Meucci back in the late eighties or early nineties I went to a department store or big sporting goods store that stocked a few dozen jointed Dufferin cues, full splice wrapless if I remember correctly. I selected the best shaft I could find and bought the cue. The joint diameter was as good a match as most replacement shafts and the shaft played just fine on either butt. Does have to be noted that the cue was a Meucci from the early eighties with the noodle shaft that few would like the hit of today.
The issues with the Budweiser cue seems to be a very light soft wood handle and a loose thread wrap. The wood resembles poplar and I don't think there is any way to get a decent hit out of it other than a full core job as mentioned in another post.
Hu
I've played with an unmarked Predator shaft on a "Budweiser" cue many times and it plays great, as long as the weight and the balance are fine.
You might have a winner!
Strange but true. There's a local player here that sweeps several open 9 ball tourney's with his 314-2 on a The Simpsons themed butt from Spencer's, the edgy, humorous, collectible, novelty and gag gifts store. He even uses duct tape to secure the joint further. Shows you how insignificant the cue butt can be in the hands of the right person.
Strange but true. There's a local player here that sweeps several open 9 ball tourney's with his 314-2 on a The Simpsons themed butt from Spencer's, the edgy, humorous, collectible, novelty and gag gifts store. He even uses duct tape to secure the joint further. Shows you how insignificant the cue butt can be in the hands of the right person.
I believe jumpinjoe(az poster) plays with a coca cola butt and a tiger shaft.Or atleast has one..I do know a guy who hustles every where and he has the cue with light up fish swimming in the bottom of it like an aquarium and he has a predator shaft on it..And it hits like a regular cue.I also see ppl run out with warped house cues.If u can play u can play.If u cant u cant..
I have my OB2 attached to an old brunswick cue butt. I think it's actually a nice looking cue but it plays just fine. The butt isn't that relevant but I would want to make sure I got a butt that at least has a LITTLE care put into the workmanship... no bent pin, rattling joint, easily popped off buttcap, etc.
Banks
Banned
I've got a friend that started with a Simpsons cue and added a Pred shaft to it.. I think it was a Z, though, but I could be wrong.
As for me, I play with a short, light Valley and have played with a 'carved' cue with a screw-on tip. My biggest problem with the last one is that the tips would mushroom out quickly(even the 'hard' ones) and I'd have to change them out. One may have even cracked, iirc.