For example, SVB just spotted K Bennett the 8 and 9 ball playing 10 ball and SVB beat him, and Keith B can flat out play.
This is where the descriptions become blurry IMO.
Most of the players you refer to as shortstops are sponsored "Pro Players." I know Matt Krah is (or was) sponsored by Lucasi. Of course, we all know there is no actual definition of Pro Player.
IMO there are tiers in the "Pro" ranks
My understanding of the term shortstop has always been someone who can win money locally but not on the road. A shortstop would avoid the best player in his area unless getting weight.
The term shortstop should be done away with. Over the years I've heard it mean different things to different pros in different parts of the country. DannyD said it meant someone a road player would stop in a town to play, get the money and then move on=a short stop. Johnnyt
I have heard this term thrown out in pool commentary and on the forums. Can someone give me a definition? And I know it isn't a position on a baseball field. lol
I agree.
I am pretty sure Matt Krah, Shaun Wilkie and Brett S. would take offense if someone referred to them as shortstops.
I agree.
I am pretty sure Matt Krah, Shaun Wilkie and Brett S. would take offense if someone referred to them as shortstops.
That's the way I always looked at it too. Someone that would get up and play. Someone that you didn't have to spend a week trying to trap to get him on the table. Someone that could play and would bet, but wasn't quite up to taking off the top guys.
I would disagree about shortstops not being able to make $$$ as a road player. As far as "sponsored" players go...no big deal. Lots of players get "sponsored" with a cue or two. It's not particularly indicative of their level of play, imo.
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Well...Brett will be playing in the Amateur Open Next month in Florida.
I've always considered these guys about the same speed as Mike Davis,
but they don't travel like Mike and they don't arm wrestle like Mike.
CJ Wiley has used the term on several occasions to insult AZers who he knows full well are only B players. If anybody else called them a shortstop they'd probably be flattered, but the way CJ used it he seemed to convey an utter contempt for players "stuck" at the shortstop level, implying that these "shortstops" should hold their tongue whenever a champ speaks.
I'm only 5' 6", so I have the "short" part down, and I stopped growing almost 50 years ago, so there's the "stop" part. That's about as close as I ever have to worry about getting to shortstop speed.![]()
There were a lot of shortstops in the open this year!
Now this is just my opinoin, players like Wilke, kral, e.moore, B.Stolleymeyer, Pike and many more that play at or near their speed, i would consider them shortstops, they just are not constitent enough to win any big tournament as is Earl,Svb, Morris, Thorston H, Johnny, but boy i wish i could play like Wilke or the rest of em!
For example, SVB just spotted K Bennett the 8 and 9 ball playing 10 ball and SVB beat him, and Keith B can flat out play!
So if someone tells you you are about to play a shortdstop (gambling) you mite want to reconsider.
A local player who is one of the best (if not THE best) players in town, unless the town includes some local pros. This player usually is the one to match up against road players, and sometimes might win. Not quite good enough to be a road player himself.
Definitions might vary a little depending on who you ask, but the gist should be the same.