What is a shortstop?

I would disagree about shortstops not being able to make $$$ as a road player. As far as "sponsored" players go...no big deal. Lots of players get "sponsored" with a cue or two. It's not particularly indicative of their level of play, imo.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

This is where the descriptions become blurry IMO.

Most of the players you refer to as shortstops are sponsored "Pro Players." I know Matt Krah is (or was) sponsored by Lucasi. Of course, we all know there is no actual definition of Pro Player.

IMO there are tiers in the "Pro" ranks

My understanding of the term shortstop has always been someone who can win money locally but not on the road. A shortstop would avoid the best player in his area unless getting weight.
 
The term shortstop should be done away with. Over the years I've heard it mean different things to different pros in different parts of the country. DannyD said it meant someone a road player would stop in a town to play, get the money and then move on=a short stop. Johnnyt

That's the way I always looked at it too. Someone that would get up and play. Someone that you didn't have to spend a week trying to trap to get him on the table. Someone that could play and would bet, but wasn't quite up to taking off the top guys.
 
I have heard this term thrown out in pool commentary and on the forums. Can someone give me a definition? And I know it isn't a position on a baseball field. lol

A shortstop is indeed a position on a baseball or softball field.

Shortstop, abbreviated SS, is the baseball or softball fielding position between second and third base. Shortstop is often regarded as the most dynamic defensive position in baseball, because there are more right-handed hitters in baseball than left-handed hitters, and most hitters have a tendency to pull the ball slightly, so more balls go to the shortstop than any other position. In the numbering system used to record defensive plays, the shortstop is assigned the number 6.

Here is the link -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortstop

Hope this helps.
 
I agree.

I am pretty sure Matt Krah, Shaun Wilkie and Brett S. would take offense if someone referred to them as shortstops.

They can take offense all they want, they are shortstop players, Wilkie is the best of this bunch.

Is any of the 3 still remaining in the us open?

They are very good player, but atlease a few notches from the best, now call them as you wish!

I wish i played 9-10 ball as good as any of them!
 
I agree.

I am pretty sure Matt Krah, Shaun Wilkie and Brett S. would take offense if someone referred to them as shortstops.

:smile:

Well...Brett will be playing in the Amateur Open Next month in Florida.

I've always considered these guys about the same speed as Mike Davis,

but they don't travel like Mike and they don't arm wrestle like Mike.
 
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That's the way I always looked at it too. Someone that would get up and play. Someone that you didn't have to spend a week trying to trap to get him on the table. Someone that could play and would bet, but wasn't quite up to taking off the top guys.

that was me back in Jersey in the 80's. I would play any stranger that walked thru the door. Beat a bunch and lost to a few. You would be surprised at the number of weak players that would come in and drop some money. I don't know why they did it but they did.
The room i was at was on a road that was 10 minutes from the Seaside Heights board walk so we got a lot of tourists.One night a young guy and his girl come in and ask the house man if there was anybody up for $25 sets of 9 ball. House man calls me over and I play. I melted the guy for 3 straight sets and hes happy as could be to donate.
And yes I took care of the houseman.
And i did get crushed by some really good road players.
But i still got up for strangers.
 
I would disagree about shortstops not being able to make $$$ as a road player. As far as "sponsored" players go...no big deal. Lots of players get "sponsored" with a cue or two. It's not particularly indicative of their level of play, imo.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

:D


Yeah...I agree. I wanted to take Brett on the road about ten years ago.

Every time I wanted to take him somewhere he always said it was too far.

His problem was---He always wanted to play the best. I always told him to play the rest and never the best.:thumbup:
 
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Well...Brett will be playing in the Amateur Open Next month in Florida.

I've always considered these guys about the same speed as Mike Davis,

but they don't travel like Mike and they don't arm wrestle like Mike.

Are you serious, Brett.s And Matt.k play as good as Mike Davis.

Mike Davis won atlease 2 big tournaments, Reno a few years back and The George S.S Tournament with all the top players in each of these tournaments.

Wilke, M.Krah or Brett has never even came close to winning a big tournament, wait a minute Wilke did finish 2nd at Valley Forge Against a lot of top pros.

Wilke is the better player out of Krah and Brett, thats my opionin ofcourse.
 
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I get along with all pool players except for 3 in the world..

CJ Wiley has used the term on several occasions to insult AZers who he knows full well are only B players. If anybody else called them a shortstop they'd probably be flattered, but the way CJ used it he seemed to convey an utter contempt for players "stuck" at the shortstop level, implying that these "shortstops" should hold their tongue whenever a champ speaks.

I'm only 5' 6", so I have the "short" part down, and I stopped growing almost 50 years ago, so there's the "stop" part. That's about as close as I ever have to worry about getting to shortstop speed.:o

I'm confused, did I insult a whole group of baseball players now. :shrug:

Where have I ever shown contempt for any pool players, at any level? I get along with all pool players at many different levels although we sometimes have differences of opinion......it's ok to have differences of opinion on a public forum isn't it?
 
Keith Bennett

There were a lot of shortstops in the open this year!

Now this is just my opinoin, players like Wilke, kral, e.moore, B.Stolleymeyer, Pike and many more that play at or near their speed, i would consider them shortstops, they just are not constitent enough to win any big tournament as is Earl,Svb, Morris, Thorston H, Johnny, but boy i wish i could play like Wilke or the rest of em!

For example, SVB just spotted K Bennett the 8 and 9 ball playing 10 ball and SVB beat him, and Keith B can flat out play!

So if someone tells you you are about to play a shortdstop (gambling) you mite want to reconsider.

Yea shortstops are generally players who can play at a pro speed but are being held back either by themselves or their circumstances. Keith Bennett for those who don't know really can flat out play. What holds him back? Who knows... But that's the life of a short stop.

Hell I remember when Hatch was a shortstop. Now look he's playing on the mosconi team. The south is full of shortstops. Idk if this is where the term came from or not but here's what I think.

"If ur a road player gambling with the wrong shortstop it could make ur trip a short stop indeed."
 
A local player who is one of the best (if not THE best) players in town, unless the town includes some local pros. This player usually is the one to match up against road players, and sometimes might win. Not quite good enough to be a road player himself.

Definitions might vary a little depending on who you ask, but the gist should be the same.

If this is true, then I am a second baseman. I love baseball terms. Especially in October. A shortstop always needs a second baseman to run a double play. smack smack :thumbup:
 
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