As long as the pressure is equal and not really tight I doubt it is a problem
What is most important to you personally when you purchase a Pool Cue Case?
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As long as the pressure is equal and not really tight I doubt it is a problem
Many millions of happy iPhone and Mac users would disagree with you. All of the Apple products I own are "Designed by Apple in California, assembled in China". It doesn't matter to me where my iPhone was put together because Steve Jobs stands behind it. Similarly, when ordering a case it didn't matter to me where it was being assembled because John Barton stood behind it.
I know what you are saying but it still doesn't sound as good to me as no pressure at all. Also, what if the pressure (or the effect of pressure) is not even, like the differential between a butt and a shaft pressing against each other? Or when the case is not full so there may be no resistance on the other side of a piece?
Like I said, I'm not expert but I'm just not sold on the whole tight fit concept.
But if there is space between the cue and the side of the tube wouldn't that leave room for the cue to warp? I admit I am not an expert either.....
To answer your questions as long as the cue is round and the sides have the same amount of padding the pressure should be equal.
But if there is space between the cue and the side of the tube wouldn't that leave room for the cue to warp? I admit I am not an expert either.....
To answer your questions as long as the cue is round and the sides have the same amount of padding the pressure should be equal.
Well, my understanding is that wood will find it's happy place anyway, and a little bit of padding won't stop it. For instance, John Barton makes the plush interior cases that a lot of people like but I've never heard him claim it will prevent warping. From what I know, the only solid defense against warping is the use of aged wood in the build. I'm not sure hanging shafts will even prevent it.
As far as the pressure being equal, I'm not convinced there is quite that much quality control in any padding material. I'm talking military spec type costs. Bedsides, even if the pressure was exactly equal, I'd be concerned about a shaft surrounded by butts on three sides with nothing on the 4th side, for example. There is a difference in the mass of the pieces and in any event, if the case is not full then the pressure is probably not equal on all the pieces if there is an empty hole.
Look, as I said, I'm not an expert and I'm by no means pontificating on how everyone should think about it. I'm just expressing my concerns. You may in fact be right and me wrong. It's just a concern I have that has prevented me from jumping on the tight fit bandwagon. I'm not trying to sell my viewpoint, I'm just expressing it.
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It would depend on which parts he was purchasing from other countires. Is the leather imported from another country because thats the largest part? Italy for example has very nice leather. :thumbup:
My last production case was a Joe Porper 2x4 But as I got into custom cues, I also got into custom cases. Whitten, Murnak I ordered direct. I wanted a case that would compliment my cue.
Protection is not a large concern for me cause Im very careful with my cue. Im not transporting the cue in the back of a pick up truck with a load of cinder blocks with it
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While at the pool hall I always break down my cue while not it use and I place the case in a safe area where it wont be knocked over or stepped on.
As for the kind of protection Im lookin for- Im looking for theft protection. :grin:
Protection is not a large concern for me cause Im very careful with my cue. Im not transporting the cue in the back of a pick up truck with a load of cinder blocks with it
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While at the pool hall I always break down my cue while not it use and I place the case in a safe area where it wont be knocked over or stepped on.
As for the kind of protection Im lookin for- Im looking for theft protection. :grin:
Please stop using the word tight. Grab your cue and a wash cloth. Wrap the wash cloth around the cue and grip it so that the cue cannot be slid out of your hand.
That is tight.
Now grip the cue so that it does not fall to the floor but another person can easily slide it out of your hand.
That is snug.
Look at this diagram carefully,
At no time do the parts in a JB Case or any case with a JB Interior get enough pressure in the center to deform them. There is no lateral pressure on the shafts in out tubes cases.
So I would appreciate it if you all could take a moment to understand the difference between tight and snug. Tomorrow I will do another video to explain this with examples of our interior liner so that you all can see this in detail.
That's all, carry on with the conversation
That is tight.
Now grip the cue so that it does not fall to the floor but another person can easily slide it out of your hand.
That is snug.
Look at this diagram carefully,
At no time do the parts in a JB Case or any case with a JB Interior get enough pressure in the center to deform them. There is no lateral pressure on the shafts in out tubes cases.
So I would appreciate it if you all could take a moment to understand the difference between tight and snug. Tomorrow I will do another video to explain this with examples of our interior liner so that you all can see this in detail.
That's all, carry on with the conversation
Plus with all the human rights violations in China, I might not want to know where the leather came from. j/k
JV
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Exactly, I also have never turned my case upside down, never threw it out a window, never have dragged it from my truck, etc....
Showman's wife used to sew up a little delivery sleeve and I have used that on numerous occasions to carry a cue in and NEVER damaged a cue in it.
JV
I'm with you ... the case should transport my cue(s) from home to pool hall and back without fvcking them up. If I'm an idiot to open the case upside down or run them over with a car, then I figure I deserve to get my cues dinged up or broken
Weight is a big factor if the case is bigger than 2x4 ...
I carry a butterfly case and it provides plenty protection for my need with minimal weight.
So are you saying that because you have never had a problem where more protection would be nice to have that no one else has had such problems?
Isn't that a bit like saying that car insurance is not needed because you have never had an accident?
I understand the personal anecdotes but do you think that people's stories who did have such issues as running over their cases, cases being in car accidents, getting out a cab and the lid coming off with the cues flying out, guy slips on the ice and the cues go flying out of the case....stuff like that should also be part of the conversation?
Let's put it another way just as an example:
You are walking down a flight of concrete stairs holding your most expensive cue, call is a $10,000 Palmer and you are on the way to sell it, some kid on a skateboard loses it and flies right into your back causing you to lose your grip on the cue. Would you rather at that moment be holding it in a fabric sleeve or a hard shell case?
If you choose the hard shell case would you rather that the case be loose inside so that with every bouce on those steps the cue is violently jarred as it makes it's way to the bottom or would you prefer that the case have some padding so that the cue is cushioned during that bumpy ride down the steep steps.
IN which case would you feel the LEAST trepidation about the cue as you ran down the steps to retrieve it.
Which option would give you the most confidence that the cue would still be intact and ready to sell to the eagerly waiting buyer?
Sometimes when i go to the pool hall i just take my cue in the felt that cues come in. Other times i will carry my less expensive cases. I have my Whitten Justis, and Ron Thomas at home for my collectibles.
As long as the cues are in a case in a heated and A/C place they should be okay.
As long as the cues are in a case in a heated and A/C place they should be okay.
Well than why would you even have a Cue Case when you can get by with this FREE CUE CARRIER after you eat your Asparagus.:wink:
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FUNCTIONALITY.......will it hold the cues and accessories I want it to carry while providing superior strength and protection.
Lets just say that over 1000 cues and 30 years, I am good. Lets also say that I have had cues in my Justis Tube case, and the case has been knocked hard from vertical 100x at many pool halls. Do you know how my cues are?
Puuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrfect as Eartha Kitt would say...
JV
ps: BTW if I was delivering a 10,000 dollar Palmer.... or any cue.. it would be in a case.
And that's what it's all about: taking reasonable care and chances are your cues will be fine. It's a choice of balance we all make every day, otherwise we'd all be riding around in armored cars.
Personally, I like a good solid case that offers a reasonable level of protection and is aesthetically pleasing. And if a terrorist comes out from around the corner with an RPG, whether I'm carrying a Justis or Whitten, (or some Chinese made product that damages the finish of the cues inside
will be immaterial, my point being that you can always come up with a scenario of ultimate cue mayhem. And if worst comes to worst am I going to wish I had bought the aluminum case with the custom cut foam padding for my cues? No, not really.Lou Figueroa
A guy on my team wasn't hurting for $$$ but he brought his cue to league held together with a rubberband.
My case sucks!!! I want a nice 2x2 envelope.
Black with nickle hardware, a lil 4'' pocket, & A handle.
Nothing fancy.
Anything out there? Cheap?
My case sucks!!! I want a nice 2x2 envelope.
Black with nickle hardware, a lil 4'' pocket, & A handle.
Nothing fancy.
Anything out there? Cheap?
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