What Is The Accepted Norm?

[DrCue'sProtege]

when you miss a shot either in a tournament, or at home on your own table, how many times do you posters usually shoot the shot to ensure you wont miss it again?

10 times?
50 times?
100 times?
2 straight hours?
25 in a row?

DCP

 

[td873]

when you miss a shot either in a tournament, or at home on your own table, how many times do you posters usually shoot the shot to ensure you wont miss it again?

10 times?
50 times?
100 times?
2 straight hours?

DCP

What exactly do you mean?

It depends on what the shot is, and if you can identify why you missed it. If you miss the shot because you don't know it, then at least 50 a day for a week. If it's a brain fart, then 2 hours of shooting are worthless. You need 2 hours of concentration practice. If you were sharked, then why practice something you know.



-td

 

[Snorks]

When you take your lesson, ask specifically 'how' to train, practice and play.

In short, you can concentrate for 1/2 hour max. If I was to want to specifically practice this shot, I would pick a low number of reputations 10 to 20 (max). Then shoot that shot only that number of times.. .completely concentrating on the shot. Record results.
Repeat the following day (you need a sleep cycle).
Repeat for ? days. (edited.. I think the answer may be 21 days - I originally had 7-10 days - no matter what, the practice routine is the important part - limiting the number of iterations will put pressure on you to fully concentrate and gives the necessary pressure required for you to learn the shot).

By then, you will have the shot.

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

i recall one of my instructors telling me he played Jeff Carter in a match back in the 90s, and he missed a shot that pretty much cost him the rack, and the match IIRC.

he then tells me afterwards Jeff Carter went and practiced that shot for two straight hours.............

DCP

 

[Blackjack]

i recall one of my instructors telling me he played Jeff Carter in a match back in the 90s, and he missed a shot that pretty much cost him the rack, and the match IIRC.

he then tells me afterwards Jeff Carter went and practiced that shot for two straight hours.............

DCP

You have to determine why and how you missed. You cannot correct errors if you don't know what caused the error. Its not so much practicing the shot you missed 200 times - its reprogramming your mind to associate that situation with success instead of failure.

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

You have to determine why and how you missed. You cannot correct errors if you don't know what caused the error. Its not so much practicing the shot you missed 200 times - its reprogramming your mind to associate that situation with success instead of failure.

wowsa!

Blackjack, do you know how many times i heard the very same thing from Tom Rossman regarding misses?

DCP

 

[SpiderWebComm]

You have to determine why and how you missed. You cannot correct errors if you don't know what caused the error. Its not so much practicing the shot you missed 200 times - its reprogramming your mind to associate that situation with success instead of failure.

Exactly. # times is really immaterial w/out the above. Actually, maybe you missed a shot because you were nervous.... but you can make the shot 10000 times in practice, for fun. The next time you're under the gun to get out, you dog it again. Therefore, the shooting drill you mentioned will not make you better all the time. The best way to get better is to hook yourself with top instruction (which you've taken that step), work to a point where you can somewhat get out, and once you're there--- start gambling cheap. Just enough to hate losing. Or, get someone to taser you every time you miss. Playing well is nothing more than a conditioned response. You hate (or it hurts) to lose, therefore you play better.

It's not a bad question though. I think you should write down this and the many other questions you have and present them to Scott Lee instead of creating a new thread each time you have a new thought. Or, create one thread with a number of different questions in it.

Or, better yet, maybe AZB can create a new section (like they did for straight pool) called INSTRUCTIONAL QUESTIONS where people can post pool-related questions and strategies. Believe me, I have a few questions too!

That way people have a place to ask "how to draw a CB" questions, there's a place to answer "how to draw a CB" questions if others are in the mood, and we don't have to scan past 10 DCP posts to find out who's gambling in Olathe and other fun stuff in the main section.

I mean that with the utmost respect, by the way. Just an idea. I CAN'T WAIT for you to get better

 

[Jude Rosenstock]

You have to appreciate that every moment in your life is unique. That moment in that tournament where you had to shoot that shot cannot be recreated. Just because you hit a shot in practice 1000x doesn't mean you're going to be great at it when the shot matters most. Also, just because you have always done poorly at a shot in practice means nothing when everything is on the line.

Focus on your own level of comfort, how you feel throughout your matches. You want confidence and competitiveness. You want to feel deliberate. In control. The shots do not matter.

Unfortunately, the only way to practice this is to get out there and compete as often as you can.

 

[mosconiac]

accidental post

 

[supergreenman]

when you miss a shot either in a tournament, or at home on your own table, how many times do you posters usually shoot the shot to ensure you wont miss it again?

10 times?
50 times?
100 times?
2 straight hours?
25 in a row?

DCP

I'm going go out on a limb here and say perhaps you need to work on your focus rather than waste your time shooting the same shot over and over. Try straight pool.

 

[ez2h8]

You have to determine why and how you missed. You cannot correct errors if you don't know what caused the error. Its not so much practicing the shot you missed 200 times - its reprogramming your mind to associate that situation with success instead of failure.

That is a great response and I like spiders as well. I have to agree with this. Sometimes it can be the shot you didn't know how to make. Could be the mind that didn't feel comfortable, calm, collective or even confident you can make it. Could be the enviroment, noise, table conditions, number of people watching. Simple example. Once you learn to draw the cueball back in a straight in shot, you can probably draw it 100 times. Now go to a table where the felt is worn down, dirty or the air is really humid and see how far back you draw the ball. Will be like mud. Or go to a really nice table with fresh cloth and try that draw, may get no draw as it could skid instead of spin or draw really far back past your expected mark.

It's all about conditioning the mind to think of more then the shot. Sure, it's really good to understand how to make the shot, how the balls are going to roll but there is much more to take into consideration. I do practice shots over and over but it's more of conditioning my mind and muscle memory.

But, when I do learn a new shot I never thought of or seen before, I will practice that shot in it's basic form for 30-60 minutes and then try variations of it, different englishs or angles. Just to expand my understanding of the shot and where I could apply it in future.

Good question
ez