Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
For the same reason the other women didn't call the police. I felt ashamed and humiliated.
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Nobody is (or ever has) downplayed this incident.
There are many people that were around Charlie and Marissa that weekend. Marissa, despite this incident had a pretty good time that weekend. I am sure that I have discussed this situation more with her than most people on this forum. There are a lot of reasons that Marissa did not go to the authorities, and she have discussed that.
All I am saying is that her decision not report this incident and have it investigated does not justify saying that Frank and everybody else were not there for her. That was not the case.
For those insinuating that I am not being understanding with Marissa, she would tell you otherwise.
Marissa,
You have to realize that Karim and Frank have nothing to do with what happened between you and Charlie. There was nothing either of them could have said or done that would have made that situation any better for you. Why bring either of them into this situation? You were probably removed from the venue because of these allegations. IMO, it was the right move. You may not agree with what Charlie did, but he created distance to avoid any further interaction or problems with you.
FTR, over the past 4 years (exactly 4 years to the day in fact), I have never discussed this situation with Frank, Cindy, Thorsten, Tony, or anybody else out of respect for your privacy. Why keep bringing this up publicly? It makes it very difficult for those of us that were there for you out of support, understanding, and friendship to have walk this fine line because of he said - she said. The truth is, none of us know what really happened. Publicly or privately, I have never seen Charlie act anything but professional and respectful. I'm not choosing sides, I'm just stating a fact based on my own experience around Charlie Williams.
I just think that there is a more positive approach to dealing with this than to keep it going on and on - bringing it up constantly in an attempt to facilitate entertainment value for these threads - and IMO, that is all this incident is being used for now. That's not right. JMO.
Tap Tap Tap Blackjack.
Marissa,I feel bad for what might have happened.
Marissa,I feel bad for what might have happened.
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
I didn't go public about the sexual assault incident until August, which was after Vegas. I also never sat nowhere near Charlie as I have no desire to be around him.
I really don't understand your recent posts as they contradict the messages you sent me regarding not only CW and DP, but Frank and the UPA, as well.
I never asked you or anyone to pick sides. I would never ask that of anybody. I understand that people in this industry have to make a living, that CW/DP are one of the strongest companies in pool, and that's why they keep silent publicly. I was scared about coming forth, but then learned I wasn't the only one, and I wasn't the first one. I'm glad now that I came forward if only because it may prevent him from trying it on anyone else again.
And for the record, this is not something I brought up, especially not for the forum's "entertainment".
If someone wants to email me about it, that's fine. But I would rather not participate in any more discussions regarding this on here.
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This is what I expected eventually, Marissa. It was more about the attention than it was about getting justice, wasn't it? The only thing I regret is believing you when it happened and remaining friends with you at the expense of causing friction in other relationships. I guess that's my bad, isn't it. You can post whatever you like in this forum or any other about this incident and people involved, it won't change the fact that I don't trust you anymore than Charlie does now.
(Note to Marissa -Thanks for editing out the private communications between us that you saw fit to publish here. However, doing so won't change how I view this situation and you in the future. Your loss.)
(Note to Marissa -Thanks for editing out the private communications between us that you saw fit to publish here. However, doing so won't change how I view this situation and you in the future. Your loss.)
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Jeez, your position sure changed. Can't say I can really follow your reaction to SMs last item here??
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
David, I just don't understand how you've supported me in the past, albiet mostly in private but I understood your situation, then come on here now with your recent stance.
I witnessed this also first hand. After Allison Fisher got knocked out of the tourny, Cindly Lee was in the hallway ready to cut her a check.
I think that David is giving you support here. He has made it clear that his only issue is that you seemed to pull Frank into your situation & you weren't being fair towards him.
Who is to the left of Corey in the blue shirt?
LOL,Way too funny.
Pork-barrel politics at its worst. Marissa, you don't need "friends" like this.
Mark
I'm sure Marissa's biggest frustration is that everyone just didn't instantly believe her story 100% and cut off any support for Charlie.
The thing that she needs to understand is that so many thousands of lying women have ruined it for her.
So often a woman will quickly lie through her teeth and ruin a man's entire life just to save a little face or to get a little revenge.
I have no idea what happened but I hope you understand where people are coming from due to the selfish lies of other women's past.
The thing that she needs to understand is that so many thousands of lying women have ruined it for her.
So often a woman will quickly lie through her teeth and ruin a man's entire life just to save a little face or to get a little revenge.
I have no idea what happened but I hope you understand where people are coming from due to the selfish lies of other women's past.
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
I knew not everyone would believe me on just my word. It has, however, happened to other women, which other people do know about. They just haven't come forward publicly. One lady's incident was before mine. Had she come forward, maybe I wouldn't have gone through it. Now that I've come forward, hopefully he'll have think twice before trying it again on someone else.
Since she is a pool player and this is how she makes her living, I can understand her hesitation. If she were to come forward, he might prevent her from being invited to certain events. And that's one way he can get away with it. I'm sure I'm not allowed at his events any more even as a spectator.
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Vette,
You are a twisted man!! .........I love it! LOL
That's usually how it is too......The predator is right under your nose. :shocked:
I wonder just HOW bad does someone have to be for some people to draw the line? I think it's different for different people. I am certainly no saint, but "I" draw the line on some of the things that CW is known for. If you don't, I respect that, but it makes me wonder what is acceptable to you.
I know it is VERY difficult for Marissa to bring these accusation to a public forum. One thing for sure........she has been consistent with her account and CW has ignored ALL discussion about this and anything else here on the forum. I think "minimum" the ladies should watch their selves around CW.
It's seems to me that he is trying "extra" hard to be an asset to the women players, which would make it even harder for any of them to come forward. Good for pool? Probably........but really convenient.
Ray
Sweet Marissa,
I really wanted to say out of this issue, because there are only two people who knows exactly what happened that night and the crazy thing about it is... that even that two people involved may not have same memories to what had occurred that night. Especially 4 years ago.
Marissa, it is truly a tragic for any woman to go through what you described of that night and we (at the Forum) all feel it was an experience that no woman wants to live through. But the bottom line is that you made your choice not to file a complaint-with or without tainted advises under your not so stable mental state - scared and ashamed.
It's not your fault that you decided not to draw anymore stress to the situation, maybe it was the best thing for you at the time, but we really don't know. What you need to focus is to let that go and enjoy the love and happiness that awaits you right now!
People make mistakes and some people learn and repent from it and some people get away... but not for long. I am a firm believer of Karma and made enough mistakes in my life to taste the bitterness and sweetness of it.
I don't know if he did you wrong, but if he did, it will catch up soon or later. I see you keep bringing this incident over and over and maybe because YOU feel that he didn't get served of what is due to him - IF HE DID YOU WRONG AS YOU SAY. But believe me, anyone who commits evil will get what's coming to them.
Marissa, just concentrate on the gift of life and love you have ahead of you.
S.
I really wanted to say out of this issue, because there are only two people who knows exactly what happened that night and the crazy thing about it is... that even that two people involved may not have same memories to what had occurred that night. Especially 4 years ago.
Marissa, it is truly a tragic for any woman to go through what you described of that night and we (at the Forum) all feel it was an experience that no woman wants to live through. But the bottom line is that you made your choice not to file a complaint-with or without tainted advises under your not so stable mental state - scared and ashamed.
It's not your fault that you decided not to draw anymore stress to the situation, maybe it was the best thing for you at the time, but we really don't know. What you need to focus is to let that go and enjoy the love and happiness that awaits you right now!
People make mistakes and some people learn and repent from it and some people get away... but not for long. I am a firm believer of Karma and made enough mistakes in my life to taste the bitterness and sweetness of it.
I don't know if he did you wrong, but if he did, it will catch up soon or later. I see you keep bringing this incident over and over and maybe because YOU feel that he didn't get served of what is due to him - IF HE DID YOU WRONG AS YOU SAY. But believe me, anyone who commits evil will get what's coming to them.
Marissa, just concentrate on the gift of life and love you have ahead of you.
S.