What is your PSR?

My dear Mr. Shuffett:
I also am one of your students although it was via YouTube and not in-person.
I protest not being added to this list.
Since I learned CTE, I won the Ace High Billiards & Card Room tournament in Chula Vista California...defeating "Tijuana Joe", "Shimmy Shaking Tina from Pasadena", and "Imperial Beach Fats".....all by huge margins and took home the $20 prize money with a big ugly grin.;)
To top that off, I knocked over "Jacksonville Jennifer" in the Florida Old Folks Finals, and followed that up by beating two Alligators and a Crocodile.
How's them apples? :D:D:D:D:D:D
Stay happy and...
Keep on truckin'
:thumbup:

If I ever get out your way, do you think you could introduce and set me up with
Shimmy Shaking Tina from Pasadena? She just sounds hot!:wub:
 
My dear Mr. Shuffett:
I also am one of your students although it was via YouTube and not in-person.
I protest not being added to this list.
Since I learned CTE, I won the Ace High Billiards & Card Room tournament in Chula Vista California...defeating "Tijuana Joe", "Shimmy Shaking Tina from Pasadena", and "Imperial Beach Fats".....all by huge margins and took home the $20 prize money with a big ugly grin.;)
To top that off, I knocked over "Jacksonville Jennifer" in the Florida Old Folks Finals, and followed that up by beating two Alligators and a Crocodile.
How's them apples? :D:D:D:D:D:D
Stay happy and...
Keep on truckin'
:thumbup:

Good stuff! :D
 
I understand. A good way to describe it is: From the right perspective one can easily find the correct perception needed to fix or lock-in the CB.

In the case of CTE, It's possible to rule out perception and perspective altogether, because there is a reality going on that most people with vision in both eyes, sees a blended vision of two images into one in their/our daily lives.

Perhaps the more accurate statement in the case of edge to A, center to edge, is to say, "observe the distinction". But "pick up the perception" is fine too and probably more efficient in a way because there is a objective in mind.

Regardless of what one wants to call it, the perception method is quite clever and mandatory imo because it gives a clearer or clearest visual method of programming the brain as to just what the hell the eyes or "cameras" are looking at.

This is why I took it a step further in what I invented as "panoramic programming". This entails a more deliberate process of physically walking around the the entire shot relationship in a way to give the brain a more complete detail of what the reality is.

The problem is that it takes a bit too long but when it's done right, and you come back full circle to the shotline, it pulls you into the correct alignment position like a tractor beam and the overall visual down at address is so much clearer and after launch point, the movement of the balls are night and day smoother like 1080hd vs 8mm.

I know that Stan's method is not necessarily the same thing but it does give a good perspective of a fixed point to go into and complete the objective and there is a definite visual smoothness after launch point as well. "Edit"....I'm talking about the CTE method Stan came up with, just the simple visual pick up without the lengthy process I described. With Stan's method, I found a very noticeable visual smoothness after launch point. Just wanted to make that clear from my own experience and I'm not talking for Stan or am defining his work. It is my opinion and let others decide for themselves.

The thing I've found most strange about this panoramic programming thing I messed around with, is that even with kick shots, if done correctly or sufficiently, it has a remarkable success rate attached to it.

So, I believe when others recommend going to the other side of the shot, like I see many great players do in their psr, they are knowingly or unknowingly programming the brain with a better perspective of reality or percieved reality that enables a better outcome.

Any way sir, go play that CTE guy THEY MAKE ALL THE FUSS ABOUT!!

Shoot'em now Abe, shoot'em now!!.......shut up 'Lige
 
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My dear Mr. Shuffett:
I also am one of your students although it was via YouTube and not in-person.
I protest not being added to this list.
Since I learned CTE, I won the Ace High Billiards & Card Room tournament in Chula Vista California...defeating "Tijuana Joe", "Shimmy Shaking Tina from Pasadena", and "Imperial Beach Fats".....all by huge margins and took home the $20 prize money with a big ugly grin.;)
To top that off, I knocked over "Jacksonville Jennifer" in the Florida Old Folks Finals, and followed that up by beating two Alligators and a Crocodile.
How's them apples? :D:D:D:D:D:D
Stay happy and...
Keep on truckin'
:thumbup:

Hell, I might just mention you in my book! Mosconi never won against those players!

Stan Shuffett
 
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In the case of CTE, It's possible to rule out perception and perspective altogether, because there is a reality going on that most people with vision in both eyes, sees a blended vision of two images into one in their/our daily lives.

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Yes. It's called binocular vision. When viewing two objects (one behind the other) there will always be a specific focal point (perspective) that will give you whatever particular 2 views you want to see. Example: Standing on the roof of one building, looking down at two smaller buildings in the distance, you can easily walk around until you see the center of the front building lining up with the outer left side of the far building, while also getting a view of the outer right edge of the front building lining up with the center (or any fractional portion of it's width) of the far building. It's a visual perspective that can be seen between all objects, not just spheres, and not just on a rectangular surface. But using the concept on a pool table with pool balls seems to be a great way of pinning down shot alignment, as long as you pick the correct distant fractional portion to result in the proper cut angle.

That's a necessary PSR step for CTE users, but would also benefit beginning players that have no idea where to stand or align their body for a cut shot.
 
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Yes. It's called binocular vision. When viewing two objects (one behind the other) there will always be a specific focal point (perspective) that will give you whatever particular 2 views you want to see. Example: Standing on the roof of one building, looking down at two smaller buildings in the distance, you can easily walk around until you see the center of the front building lining up with the outer left side of the far building, while also getting a view of the outer right edge of the front building lining up with the center (or any fractional portion of it's width) of the far building. It's a visual perspective that can be seen between all objects, not just spheres, and not just on a rectangular surface. But using the concept on a pool table with pool balls seems to be a great way of pinning down shot alignment, as long as you pick the correct distant fractional portion to result in the proper cut angle.

That's a necessary PSR step for CTE users, but would also benefit beginning players that have no idea where to stand or align their body for a cut shot.

NOT a necessary step for CTE.

Stan Shuffett
 
NOT a necessary step for CTE.

Stan Shuffett

I'm talking about the "perception" used to "fix" the CB. I thought that was a major CTE component. Regardless, it's an excellent visual tool for ensuring a player has his body in right place for the shot.
 
I'm talking about the "perception" used to "fix" the CB. I thought that was a major CTE component. Regardless, it's an excellent visual tool for ensuring a player has his body in right place for the shot.

You qualified your comment about perception with PSR. I equate PSR mostly with standing at ball address.

Stan Shuffett
 
Yes he was a pro level player even before CTE. I think a 12th place finish in the U.S. Open confirms he was a helluva player because it doesn't happen by way of luck or a fluke. ...

Stan Shuffett's good finish in the US Open 9-Ball Championship was 25th/32nd in the 2011 event. He won 4 matches (M. Al-Kahanfari, Jerome Rockwell, Chris Futrell, and Donny Mills) and lost to Alex Pagulayan and Daryl Peach.

[He beat Mills 11-1 and lost hill/hill to Peach!]


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You qualified your comment about perception with PSR. I equate PSR mostly with standing at ball address.

Stan Shuffett

Ok. I just figured anything set pattern of repetitive steps prior to shooting a shot would be considered a PSR. Maybe for some it is, and for others it's not.
 
Ok. I just figured anything set pattern of repetitive steps prior to shooting a shot would be considered a PSR. Maybe for some it is, and for others it's not.


Well, the terminology is Pre Shot Routine.

I think it is very easy to make the case that any action/motion that a player consciously performs every shot before actually striking the CB is part of his PSR.

Lou Figueroa
 
Well, the terminology is Pre Shot Routine.

I think it is very easy to make the case that any action/motion that a player consciously performs every shot before actually striking the CB is part of his PSR.

Lou Figueroa

Yeah, probably so. Consistent actions lead to consistent results.
 
Well, the terminology is Pre Shot Routine.

I think it is very easy to make the case that any action/motion that a player consciously performs every shot before actually striking the CB is part of his PSR.

Lou Figueroa

Technically, Yes. But the implication was for standing behind the balls. There's a lot difference between the visual work that occurs while standing vs down on the shot. It's at the closest scource to the shot where perfection really matters. So, no need to waste focus up top only to have to duplicate it during full stance. I'm referring to advanced CTE.

Stan Shuffett
 
Technically, Yes. But the implication was for standing behind the balls. There's a lot difference between the visual work that occurs while standing vs down on the shot. It's at the closest scource to the shot where perfection really matters. So, no need to waste focus up top only to have to duplicate it during full stance. I'm referring to advanced CTE.

Stan Shuffett


Standing behind the balls was your thing and I don't agree with it. And I am not talking about advanced or training wheels CTE.

I've always felt, going back 20 years when I began talking about it, that a PSR commences when a player approaches the table, continues as they descend on the shot, and ends when they are in final shooting position.

Lou Figueroa
 
Standing behind the balls was your thing and I don't agree with it. And I am not talking about advanced or training wheels CTE.

I've always felt, going back 20 years when I began talking about it, that a PSR commences when a player approaches the table, continues as they descend on the shot, and ends when they are in final shooting position.

Lou Figueroa

It's more like an offset beside the balls like you do. Techically, you are doing a form of pivoting.

No argument about PSR. Within the context of PSR a player can expend varying amounts of focus at his discretion to specific things along the way from top to the shot.

Again, my comment is that CTE does not require a perfect perception while standing and you should like that as it can eliminate the foot movement that might occur while trying to be perfect during ball address. There are varying degrees of skill levels with CTE. You experience that for yourself as you have had to refine your aiming for Diamond tables.

Stan Shuffett
 
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I've always felt, going back 20 years when I began talking about it, that a PSR commences when a player approaches the table, continues as they descend on the shot, and ends when they are in final shooting position.

Lou Figueroa

Then how about explaining YOUR PSR in step by step full detail as well as how or why you've changed it frequently over the years.

Quit this vague "pie in the sky secret moves" crap that turns a chump into a champ over night and is the most important part of pocketing balls and running out without describing it. YOURS, not some generic version.
 
Then how about explaining YOUR PSR in step by step full detail as well as how or why you've changed it frequently over the years.

Quit this vague "pie in the sky secret moves" crap that turns a chump into a champ over night and is the most important part of pocketing balls and running out without describing it. YOURS, not some generic version.

I'd like to see Lou's PRS detailed out as well. He knows what's he doing. I'd say it is close to text book but not sure. Anyway, hopefully he'll share it. Not too much to ask.

Stan Shuffett
 
Well, the terminology is Pre Shot Routine.

I think it is very easy to make the case that any action/motion that a player consciously performs every shot before actually striking the CB is part of his PSR.

Lou Figueroa

Like taking a drink of beer? It has to be more defined
 
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