What just happened between Shane & JJ on TAR stream?

I think they should encourage "dirty pool".

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She seems to be right-eye dominant.

I know, it's sad that her visual alignment was the first thing I noticed. :)
 
I agree with Jumpin Joe. Nothing should be touched during a game. I dont know where this came from, but its wrong. I played for thousands in the 70's ( of my own money ) and never even noticed if any ball was 'dirty'. I've played 20-30 hour sets and never thought to clean the balls. I've played on tables that were too dirty to clean , and balls that were dis-colored from never being cleaned. When did pool become so 'dainty' ??
Golfers play for millions with mud on the ball, scrapes, tree sap, etc. Only after the ball is on the green can you take it out of play......rub of the green! Prima donna's is right! And, its a 'move' in a lot of cases, like the one Corey made against Justin Hall.
This rule needs to go!
 
Regarding the frozen ball rule, every big tournament I've played in has allowed the shooter to shoot directly into a ball frozen to the cue ball. Like Neil said, it's a well-known rule in effect in all tournaments and it's hard to believe that JJ would be unaware of it.

(From the WPA site)
6.7 Double Hit / Frozen Balls
... If the cue ball is touching an object ball at the start of the shot, it is legal to shoot towards or partly into that ball (provided it is a legal target within the rules of the game) and if the object ball is moved by such a shot, it is considered to have been contacted by the cue ball.
 
spinning a ball is complete BS.
I like Ken but have seen him play favorites with a few different pros.
I dont blame him at all. I would be pissed also.
 
And the frozen ball rule when you shoot thru it. Come on, that rules meant for league players, its an obvious foul, pros should never be using this rule in a pro event. Such a BS rule.

you have been able to shot through a frozen ball in one pocket forever. Rules are rules
 
You know what would be hilarious?

Next time a player asks for a ball to be cleaned or "spun" (never heard of that one), the ref should whip out a little washer and soak the ball in it then apply some cleanser then som polish and wax it up good, taking like 20 minutes to clean one ball.

As for spinning the ball I have honestly never heard of that. But I have picked balls up that had debris stuck to them.
 
And the frozen ball rule when you shoot thru it. Come on, that rules meant for league players, its an obvious foul, pros should never be using this rule in a pro event. Such a BS rule.

Isn't this the same rule they use in the world snooker championships?
 
If I understand the description of the shot correctly, I believe that would be a push shot - and therefore a foul.

You don't, and it's not.:smile:

As far as the spinning of the ball to avoid the mark on it- anyone that complains about that is just looking for an excuse to lose. Ball is in the exact same spot it was, and I feel that it comes real close to unsportsmanlike conduct to complain about the shooter wanting a fair shot at the shot at hand. Pretty weak on JJ's part.
 
You don't, and it's not.:smile:

Care to explain? You have to play away from touching balls, no?

Again, I might be misunderstanding the description, but:


8. Touching Ball

(a) If at the completion of a stroke the cue-ball is touching a ball or balls on, or that could be on, the referee shall state TOUCHING BALL and indicate which ball or balls on the cue-ball is touching. If the cue-ballis touching one or more colours after a Red (or a free ball nominated as a Red) has been potted, the referee shall also ask the striker to DECLARE which colour he is on.

(b) When a touching ball has been called, the striker must play the cueball away from that ball without moving it or it is a push stroke.

(c) Providing the striker does not cause any touching object ball to move, there shall be no penalty if:
(i) the ball is on;
(ii) the ball could be on and the striker declares he is on it; or
(iii) the ball could be on and the striker declares, and first hits, another ball that could be on.

(d) If the cue-ball comes to rest touching or nearly touching a ball that is not on, the referee, if asked whether it is touching, will answer YES or NO. The striker must play away without disturbing it as above but must first hit a ball that is on.

(e) When the cue-ball is touching both a ball on and a ball not on, the referee shall only indicate the ball on as touching. If the striker should ask the referee whether the cue-ball is also touching the ball not on, he is entitled to be told.

(f) If the referee is satisfied that any movement of a touching ball at the moment of striking was not caused by the striker, he will not call a foul.

(g) If a stationary object ball, not touching the cue-ball when examined by the referee, is later seen to be in contact with the cue-ball before a stroke has been made, the balls shall be repositioned by the referee to his satisfaction. This also applies to a touching ball which later, when examined by the referee is not touching, the balls shall be repositioned by the referee to his satisfaction.
 
You don't, and it's not.:smile:

As far as the spinning of the ball to avoid the mark on it- anyone that complains about that is just looking for an excuse to lose. Ball is in the exact same spot it was, and I feel that it comes real close to unsportsmanlike conduct to complain about the shooter wanting a fair shot at the shot at hand. Pretty weak on JJ's part.

They're talking about snooker, where I believe you do have to hit away from a frozen OB.

And even in pool, I understand that the rules say you can stroke normally against a frozen OB, but it seems like a bad rule to me, and the snooker rule seems more consistent with rules against push shots.
 
They're talking about snooker, where I believe you do have to hit away from a frozen OB.

And even in pool, I understand that the rules say you can stroke normally against a frozen OB, but it seems like a bad rule to me, and the snooker rule seems more consistent with rules against push shots.

In snooker, a 'touching ball' is part of the cue ball, so you don't have to hit anything else if it is touching the ball you're 'on'. You always have to play away, though.
 
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I had only 1/4 of 2 people in the Calcutta at the bigtyme event and no I did not have the guy.
But if I did he would of still been forfeited, I don't ever play favorites at my tourneys, I don't care if a guy sells for 5k, he gets the same treatment as a $20 player.

Since your insinuating something you need look no further then the new Iberia pro/am 2 years ago, I had 100% of Jeremy Jones and I played him in the final 16 of the winners side, I had 50% of myself. I proceeded to beat him 7 to 2. I don't play that homie.

tell 'um!!!!!!!
 
In snooker, a 'touching ball' is part of the cue ball, so it doesn't matter how you hit it. You just have to make the first non 'touching' contact with a legal ball [a color or a red]

Can you point to the rules you're using? The rules cited immediately above my post say you must shoot away from a touching ball.
 
They're talking about snooker, where I believe you do have to hit away from a frozen OB.

And even in pool, I understand that the rules say you can stroke normally against a frozen OB, but it seems like a bad rule to me, and the snooker rule seems more consistent with rules against push shots.

I see that now. My mistake. But, why even bring up snooker or snooker rules? They have nothing to do with pool rules. Might as well bring up soccer rules where you are required to hit the ball with your foot or your head.:rolleyes:
 
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