What order to shoot the stripes with ball in hand?
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10, 15, 11, 14, 13, 8
or
15, 11, 14, 13, 10, 8
Either works... second one is probably safer/options if you over run shape.
or
15, 11, 14, 13, 10, 8
Either works... second one is probably safer/options if you over run shape.
Good post, I like these layout puzzles. 15, 11, 13, 14, 10, 8
I'm sure I'm wrong, but I'd take the 13 first. For some reason I don't love the 11 to 13 to 14 with the way solids are sitting. The shot from 11 to get on the 13 in a way to hold it for the 14 seems a little high risk with the 3 ball there for my skill level.
So with ball in hand I'd go 13 to the bottom side pocket which gives easy shape on the 15. Then 11, 14, 10.
So with ball in hand I'd go 13 to the bottom side pocket which gives easy shape on the 15. Then 11, 14, 10.
I touched on this out as well. The 13 is deceptively horrific.
Ah, yes, I missed that! Glad to see I'm not crazy and alone for thinking this way. You make some really good points in that post.
10,15,11,13,14
10, 15, 11, 13, 14, 8.
That is, if everything goes right!
That is, if everything goes right!
Is the shooter right handed or left handed?
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15 at first looks the obvious (to me) first shot to release the 10 for later. It's also a shot I would suggest to my opponent if they were a weaker player and asked me for advice in practice or a friendly game. However, I would take the 13 first (take your pick - short corner, short side or long side) and then the 15, 11 14 and 10. I'd also recommend this in the aforementioned situation if the question from my opponent was "but what would you do?". The 13 is a potential trouble ball if you mess up going from the 15 to the 11 because 11 to 13 isn't as simple as it looks if you are under pressure - 800+ Fargos will occasionally mess up there depending on the table speed (although of course they will make the recovery shot most of the time), which is why I think (I could be wrong) they would take the 13 first, or find another solution that doesn't involve getting shape on the 13 from the 11.
12 o'clock high cue ball, roll 14 in the side pocket (where the 10-15 is, playing shape for the 15. Softly bump roll the 15 in, creating a natural cut angle allowing shape to the 13. If you come up short, the natural angle allows shooter to just cut and roll up/down to the 10/8. These shots create natural cut angle to shape. If you get close to the 13, then you will just punch/draw back to the 10.
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PracticeChampion
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13 far side roll forward 12", 15, 11, 14 10
DeeDeeCues
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You should be able to start with any stripe and be a favorite to get out.
Couple pivotal conditions for me. First thing I'd check is if my joint cap clip was still hanging off my case. The second thing is the merits of that one game. First game? I'd shoot the combination and try to get loose on the rest of the balls. Hill game, would be as per BJ and BBB. 15, 11, and as pinpoint a closing pattern as I could manage.
WobblyStroke
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I'm with cornerman, 13 is sneaky horrific.
In light of that, I deal with it one of two ways...
A. 13, 15, 11, 14, 10, 8
B. 15, 11, 14, 10, 13, 8
I actually lean towards option B as if I don't get the angle on the 11 right to get up to the 14, I will have an ideal angle to get on the 13 from there. But if I can easily get from 11 to 14, I just do that bc it is just stuns and natural rolls for the out.
In light of that, I deal with it one of two ways...
A. 13, 15, 11, 14, 10, 8
B. 15, 11, 14, 10, 13, 8
I actually lean towards option B as if I don't get the angle on the 11 right to get up to the 14, I will have an ideal angle to get on the 13 from there. But if I can easily get from 11 to 14, I just do that bc it is just stuns and natural rolls for the out.
