Bob. I am very surprised you say to play the 13 first.Yup. My new best pattern starts 13, 15. Combos like the 10-15 go wrong too often.
I don't think any one said play the 10-15 combo. For sure I didn't.
Bob. I am very surprised you say to play the 13 first.Yup. My new best pattern starts 13, 15. Combos like the 10-15 go wrong too often.
You have like a foot and a half of space to simply roll into off the 13 to be fine on the 15. If you are worried about getting goofy on the 15 you aren't getting out anyway. Certainly not pulling off that tough 11 to 13 with any regularity. Cuz that is a shot very easy to get goofy on.But you can easily get goofy on the 15 and not get on the 11. I'm not taking that chance because bih on the 15 is guaranteed position on the 11.
Ok. If you say so. The 13 has 4 pockets. No way I shoot that first. And you can bet I'm getting out. lolYou have like a foot and a half of space to simply roll into off the 13 to be fine on the 15. If you are worried about getting goofy on the 15 you aren't getting out anyway. Certainly not pulling off that tough 11 to 13 with any regularity. Cuz that is a shot very easy to get goofy on.
10, 14, 13, 15, 11, 8Playing 8 ball with the layout given shooting stripes starting with ball in hand. What order do you shoot the balls and path if possible for easiest runout? Thanks.
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Ok. If you say so. The 13 has 4 pockets. No way I shoot that first. And you can bet I'm getting out. lol
I like the 11 to the 13 better than the 11 to either the 14 or 10 given the 3 blockers. Simple 1 rail to get position on 13 in the corner or bottom side if it rolls too far. I'm not playing for position on the 13 in the top side. I think I will set this up on my table now.Thing is though, the 15 is a gimme with BIH so you have just one positional shot from the 11 to the 13, at which point you have to pick your pocket for it and you’d have to end up so far out of position for one of the other pockets to come into play as a good shot to get on the 14. I don’t care how many pockets it has if it doesn’t make for easy options. If the 5 wasn’t there and the corner by the 14 was open whole different story, that would make for an easy shot you could go side or corner on. But the other 3 pockets don’t offer viable bale outs from a positional play to the side pocket unless you’re way off.
Lot of ways it could be played and I’m sure it comes down to shots people like and are comfortable with. I love the 13 into 15, to me that is an easy positional shot and hard it’s screw up. 11 to 13 is touchy to my eyes.
I like the 11 to the 13 better than the 11 to either the 14 or 10 given the 3 blockers. Simple 1 rail to get position on 13 in the corner or bottom side if it rolls too far. I'm not playing for position on the 13 in the top side. I think I will set this up on my table now.![]()
Ok. I like the 13 first. It ain't much, but I have an open state 8-ball championship on tight 9' tables. My strategy worked then, and it works today.Taking the open ball in the middle of the table with BIH is usually all I need to know about my opponents game.
It was not to imply you could not run it out. It's not a difficult layout and I'm confident I could get out regularly starting with any of the balls.Ok. I like the 13 first. It ain't much, but I have an open state 8-ball championship on tight 9' tables. My strategy worked then, and it works today.
Completely agree with playing patterns with insurance in mind but the only key ball worse then 13 is the 11.15 stop, 11 is key ball for shape and can be played 3 different ways. Would probably try to go in between 3/13 and error on hitting the 3. If I hit the 3 i have easy shot on 13 and still have 14. In an ideal world I don't hit either and get good on 14. Either angle on 14 gets me to 10 ball. Then stop on 10ball or just pop off rail and use 13 to get onto 8ball.
I'm always looking for "insurance" when playing a runout, in 8ball. Feel as if this way gives you the best possible insurance balls if any fuck ups in shape.
So. 15, 11,14,10,13, 8 in ideal situation.
I think that's because everyone is assuming the 13 must be potted in the top side pocket.I'm amazed that so many people think the 13 is so scary. I'll thank you for leaving me what you did if a ball that easy is the hardest or second hardest problem.
I guess it would all depend on your opponent. Like Freddie, I've also won an 8-ball state championship and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a ball in the middle of the table first. Sometimes, those balls are the hardest to get good on since you'll find yourself crossing the positional line often. I'd like to think anyone 650+ Fargo would get out here almost every time. Like some have mentioned earlier, there are a couple of spots here that can get tricky.It was not to imply you could not run it out. It's not a difficult layout and I'm confident I could get out regularly starting with any of the balls.
That said , if my opponent has bih and starts with the open ball in the middle of the table I consider it a strong indicator in my favor.
Damn. Me n Gatz are on an island on this one. 13 last is my borderline second favorite option to 13 first.Completely agree with playing patterns with insurance in mind but the only key ball worse then 13 is the 11.