What would you do in this situation, and what Efren did

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From a great dvd, accustats fatboy 10 ball challenge 2010. Archer breaks dry, Efren comes to the table with this layout.
 

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From a great dvd, accustats fatboy 10 ball challenge 2010. Archer breaks dry, Efren comes to the table with this layout.

On my monitor and with a ruler it appears that the 1 can go into the right hand side of the pocket. If that is true then either a stop shot or just a bit of follow leaves a long but makable shot on the 2 ball with proper speed to get shape on the 3. All this depends though on whether the 1 goes in the corner avoiding the bank.
 

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Efren jacked up, used a ton of low left English, and jumped the cue ball over the four, the cue ball got almost to the five and the English took and it came straight back down for the two ball. And of course, he ran out from there.
 
The angle on the 1ball was about 4 times larger than shown, which is how he managed to hook-draw the cue ball after popping it over the 4ball (otherwise he'd have to hit it so hard that the 1ball would have jumped off the table).

Great shot though. :thumbup:
 
This shot is on Youtube-I saw it a while ago. I dont have the link however, but it's there.
 

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Efren jacked up, used a ton of low left English, and jumped the cue ball over the four, the cue ball got almost to the five and the English took and it came straight back down for the two ball. And of course, he ran out from there.

I remember seeing this shot (on video). It's much more remarkable than just jumping over the 4. He jumps the cue ball so it will be airborn after hitting the 1, which allows it to go forward more before the draw catches, avoiding the 4. It's a great demonstration of a little-known technique. I think the commentators remarked on this aspect of the shot.

pj
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Scott Frost said it all several years ago at the old Sewell's Point Q-Master's when he matched up playing Efren and Efren came with one of his usual shots and Scott Frost said 'that's best f-ing shot I ever saw in my life'. That gave me a real insight into just how much respect Scott had for Efren. And added a lot to my respect for Scott as a player and person.
 
TY Mudd.

Wow what a shot.The 4 was parked way into the tangent line,unbellievable.I noticed he didn't even study very long before selecting that option.

Your right PJ,he comes down on the 1 or the shot couldn't work.Scary!
 
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Efren jacked up, used a ton of low left English, and jumped the cue ball over the four, the cue ball got almost to the five and the English took and it came straight back down for the two ball. And of course, he ran out from there.

The video commentary says the same, but obviously it was right english.

EW
 
Neil:
that is not that uncommon a shot
Yeah, I see that all the time on league night.

When was the last time you saw a jump cut of any kind, let alone one that was done just for shape?

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What would you do

I was only able to watch Efren for a couple of days at the DCC last year, at the end of the banks and first 2 days of 1 pocket.
He played the worst pool I ever saw him play and he still won all but the final match with John Brumbeck.
I have studied the careers of pool , snooker, english billiards 3 cushion etc. champions from the 1850s to present day.
Efren, Walter Lindrum and Alfredo De Oro, are the ones that seem to me, totally dominated everyone else over a long period of time. {Greenleaf, Mosconi , Hoppe and Joe Davis } to a lesser extent.
When I am honest with myself I have to say that I believe Efren has had many more great competitors to overcome than any of the other players.
He has done so with a grace and humility that seems unparalleled to me.
I am very thankful to have been a witness to his great prowess at all the billiard games, and to have had the chance to meet such a great champion.
That being said , I think this is a "hanger" for Efren
 
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