What would you do?

Number one, I'm not talking 'down' to anyone. I never said my level of play was that high, thanks for making my point. If even I can get out here, others should be able to too. If you are pounding the one, quite frankly, you don't know how to control the cb very well, or you better start playing on a table without dead rails.

All I'm trying to do on here, is help. You guys want to take it as something else, then I will stop trying to help. I'm not getting anything out of this anyways.

I still maintain that it is not that difficult of an out. Touch, maybe. Hard, no. If you think otherwise, fine, have it your way. But, quite frankly, you are missing the whole point of the thread, and are bent on just trying to make me look bad instead of trying to learn something. Typical forum behavior lately. I'm wasting my breath here.

Look, Neil, since you maintain that this is not a difficult out, for you, why don't you go downstairs and make a video? I'm a doubter and I would love to see you try this 10x in a row.


Eric
 
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This run out attitude is present in a lot of people around here too. I just wish they gambled more.

I play to win, have a background in statistical analysis, and shoot pretty sporty too. Your arguments have not swayed me.

why am i still reading this thread? this is the last bait i fall for, i swear.

-s
 
There's what you said Eric. One of my students just got here. I set this scenario up, and she made the one on the first try, and got shape on the two. By the way, she's an APA 6. :p

Neil, apparently, your definition of tickie and everyone else's differ:

Tickie= Tickie Definition

A tickie is a type of shot in cue sports where the cue ball is driven initially to one or more rails, after which it strikes a legal object ball before rebounding back to the last rail it was in contact with. A tickie is a common shot in carom billiard games, and the term can also be applied to any shot that meets the above requirements in any cue sport game.

http://www.billiardsforum.info/billiard-terms-definition/tickie.asp


Eric >wants to see Neil do it on video (and hopes Neil's student isn't PAYING for those lessons)
 
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If i was playing just for fun on this type of layout...I might try and run, but I highly doubt it....

If its a money game or tournament, your silly for even trying it IMHO...I say shoot, duck and make the other person work his ass off on trying to come up with something and hopefully breaking a cluster out so you can get get in good position to run......
 
And just for the record...I think there was alot of luck in running this out...Like Eric said...if a person can get out from this layout...hell, 5x out of 10 would really impress me....
 
Diamond barbox (7'). Had this layout the other nite. What would you do here with BIH? I thought I'd try for the runnout, and got it. I'll show later how I did it. How would you run it?

CueTable Help


Easy as pie. Kick at the 1/7 pair sending the 7 into the 9, splitting the upper right pocket. Acknowledge the crowd as they give you a standing ovation.

Fred
 
Easy as pie. Kick at the 1/7 pair sending the 7 into the 9, splitting the upper right pocket. Acknowledge the crowd as they give you a standing ovation.

Fred

Son of a B!&ch...:thud: I didnt see that.....Hell, this thing they call pool is easy. :D
 
I wonder why Neil has stopped reply-ing? Is he getting it on video?

I can see it now..."ok, take 27, this time for sure!"

-s
 
The run out looks way too difficult for almost anyone. Definitely beyond my ability. I think the best shot here is to just bank the 1-ball 1 rail towards the 9 and freeze the cue ball on the 7. Try to get ball in hand and a combo on the 9.

Diamond barbox (7'). Had this layout the other nite. What would you do here with BIH? I thought I'd try for the runnout, and got it. I'll show later how I did it. How would you run it?

CueTable Help

 
It is a little, and no you don't. All you have to do is just miss the 3 with follow and a lot of left and medium speed. The cb will compress the rail, come off the rail, hit the 3, and the spin and follow will propel perfectly into the 6. Try it. Or just ask dabarbr, he knows, and even posted that this is what he would do with the 3-6.

Neil;

Disagree with you completely. This is a difficult out at best. You actually did the tickie as indicated, thats why your CB is on the end rail and the 3 ball went up table so far. Making a carom or tickie on a frozen, or very close, ball over a diamond from the pocket on a diamond table is a difficult shot at best.

Read Franks post again, you suggest he supports your position that this is an easy out. When it clearly is not.

Would love to see you do it on video.
 
Diamond barbox (7'). Had this layout the other nite. What would you do here with BIH? I thought I'd try for the runnout, and got it. I'll show later how I did it. How would you run it?

Neil, I know you're a really good pool player but are just trying to pull everybody's leg here? Running out from the layout on that diagram looks almost impossible.
 
One would think that with your background you would have enough sense to try and and learn something. Instead, you fall in the category of wanting to just dispel what someone else says with zero effort to improve on your part.

VIDEO! VIDEO! VIDEO! or else stfu.

And, you condescending ... (forum rules prevent me saying this part), I know all those shots at least as well as you, I'm just not egotistical enough to try to run that out when I want to win.

In the first post you asked 'What would you do?'. I added my (IMO, useful) opinion to the discussion. You've been preaching your opinion since. Back it the fck up with some video or let this drop.

-s
 
Neil,

Perhaps it might quiet all of us down if you made a video showing you trying this 10 times in a row. You have a table downstairs and I assume you have a $200 camera with video capabilities (or smart phone). You obviously have a computer (from your many posts on AZB).

In all seriousness, I honestly would like to see you make this runout look easy. Truly. Maybe it will make me reconsider my opinion on table layouts. If your goal here was to teach us, I'm willing to learn.


Eric >youtube?
 
I know what a tickie is, apparently you don't, even with copying it. Instead of just trying to be a jerk that you excel at, try reading with at least a 4th grade comprehension. Re-read your initial post, the one I quoted, the one where YOU said to carom into the 3, THEN hit the end rail, THEN off the 3 to the 6. As far as the lessons slam, if you were getting them, then maybe you could make a shot that an APA can make on the first try.

Instead of trying to learn something, so many of you just want to pile on and try and start another flame thread. Have fun with that, I'm done with it. Flame on kids.

And, to clarify, you have a reading comprehension issue.

I said to play a tickie. A tickie involves shooting the CB into the rail first. I mentioned to play a tickie(rail first), then carom off the 3 ball, then into the head rail again (making it a Tickie), hitting the 6. Geez, louise. It's in writing, I can't believe that this is actually being debated, lolol!

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=2477211&postcount=29


Eric
 
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I wonder why Neil has stopped reply-ing? Is he getting it on video?

I can see it now..."ok, take 27, this time for sure!"

-s

I would personally like to thank you for doing your best to antagonize Neil in this thread. You sure have done a good job of it. Quite an accomplishment, ticking off someone who is trying to help others learn the game better.

It is too bad you can't let it go. If you want to doubt him, sure, go ahead, it's an open forum after all. But to continue to poke and prod for no constructive reason is troll-ish. I would think it could be done in a more civil manner, but hey, this is the internet, where folks LOVE to speak with other people in a manner to which they would NEVER do face to face with.

Neil, I appreciate your thread and your attempt at teaching here. Personally I wouldn't attempt this run-out in a match given my current ability level, but I certainly would like to try it in a practice environment. I realize that I'll never be able to do it until I try and practice this, or any other type of difficult shot sequence.

In short Neil, don't let the trolls get you down. Rest assured you have many more people reading these threads that do appreciate what you are trying to accomplish here. You have my thanks for doing so.
 
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