What would you do?
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Well Neil..here we are again..my least favorite topic.
We are definitely on the same page here.
If I ever start instructing my opponent on how to beat me...
..it's time to stop competing.
Once in my life I shot the wrong ball.I made the 3-ball and spun 4 rails..
..for shape on the 2-ball..:embarrassed2:
If my opponent had told me before I pulled the trigger...
..I only see two choices here...1-pay him and quit..
..2-give him ball-in-hand
Making a man pay for his own mistakes is not cheating.
Isn't it time for another 'what would' thread?
They're some of my favorites..I promise to disagree..
I understand what you're saying Neil. I'm not judging anyone, and I don't necessarily disagree with you. I completely agree that it's not our "job" to help our opponent beat us, whether for a trophy, or your paycheck. I also understand the reasoning, and I admit that under many circumstances being the nice guy isn't the wisest or correct choice.
I certainly wouldn't tell my opponents at a poker table that I was bluffing, or that my midsection was sore during a prizefight, and probably not at hill-hill for something meaningful to me.
What I am saying is that we all have to listen to that voice of conscience within ourselves, and act accordingly. If a conflict becomes so strong that it becomes a problem, then maybe you shouldn't expose yourself to it.
J
The only time I didn'y say anything was in a Tourmanet and the guy gave me a slug rack.
I hit great and the cue flew off the table and the balls barely moved.
Knowing the guy, I knew it was intentional.
One good turn deseves another in this case, fo I let him shoot.
It cost him the match.
I hit great and the cue flew off the table and the balls barely moved.
Knowing the guy, I knew it was intentional.
One good turn deseves another in this case, fo I let him shoot.
It cost him the match.
master9baller
Banned
Exactly, maybe somebody will return the favor someday.
I played a guy a race to 5 in bar box 8 ball once, just $20 a set, nothing serious. There were several people watching, all friends, very casual. He broke, then made a ball, then missed. I get to the table, lining up dead on a stipe, no more than a foot away and just out of a corner pocket. The guy lets me shoot it, then calls, "foul". He apparently had made a striped ball after the break. I reach into my pocket, hand him $20 and say that will be the last money you ever see from me. I've never played him since, his loss.
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It sounds like you should have paid closer attention to what your opponent was doing, or if you were unsure, simply asked "am I solids or stripes?"
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It depends on the tournament honestly. In a local weekly tournament with $150 or so for first place where the players normally go for something to do I am for sure telling my opponent. If we are playing a set for $20 I will probably say something.
If I am playing in the finals of a tournament like the BCA Nationals? Nah, I am letting him shoot. In that type of tournament at that stage people are micromanaging everything, they are checking racks, they are calling refs for anything close to quesitonable, they are paying heaps of attention. At that stage of the game I assure you very few people when put into that situation would tell their opponent, it is part of the opponents game to actually be paying enough attention to what they are doing at that point.
I have watched a player win the finals of the BCA 8-ball open, worth about $10,000, and do WAY worse then not tell a player when they are about to shoot the wrong ball.
I always have told them and always will. I am also guilty of shooting the wrong ball from time to time and accept the consequences of that action as well. In pool, as in life, you must not only be present to win, but paying attention as well. However, as a fierce competitor, I refuse to lose due to a technicality or other minor infraction. I want to prevail having bested my opponent's top game.
Plus, it's no fun being a dick.
Plus, it's no fun being a dick.
Generally, I'll let them shoot. That's how I learned to look at the table to make sure I'm not shooting the wrong ball. It's a mistake you only make a couple of times.
beamracing
Registered
depends on who my opponent is.
Lousyplayer
Registered
i would tell them
Feel-good-story time:
A couple years ago, i was playing in a tourney ($20 buy-in, but there were 48 players) and i was in the finals. The race was 11-6 (full ranking system). I was up 5-0 when the kid i was playing started a pretty nice run. He was on the six, but got down on the 7. I told him about it. He thanked me and finished the rack out. Turns out that was the first rack he ever ran from the break. I ended up winning 11-2 but afterwards, he came up to me and thanked me again. I shoot against him every now and again and he still comments about it. If it was for $10 or $1000, and even if i knew he wouldnt do the same for me, i would still tell them.
I have my morals and values and try to stick to them. If i wouldnt have told him, i wouldve felt like i cheated him.
A couple years ago, i was playing in a tourney ($20 buy-in, but there were 48 players) and i was in the finals. The race was 11-6 (full ranking system). I was up 5-0 when the kid i was playing started a pretty nice run. He was on the six, but got down on the 7. I told him about it. He thanked me and finished the rack out. Turns out that was the first rack he ever ran from the break. I ended up winning 11-2 but afterwards, he came up to me and thanked me again. I shoot against him every now and again and he still comments about it. If it was for $10 or $1000, and even if i knew he wouldnt do the same for me, i would still tell them.
I have my morals and values and try to stick to them. If i wouldnt have told him, i wouldve felt like i cheated him.
when moneys on the line its every man for him self , dont look to me for help ,if were betting, or hope ill guide you along,
the only guiding ill be doing, is guiding your wallet contents to my wallet.
the only guiding ill be doing, is guiding your wallet contents to my wallet.
Tell them or not to tell them if they are going to foul
I would say most of the time I would tell them
Besides i'm a (C) player so most of the time i will get another shot at the rack.
What ever goes around comes around. Nice guys don't always finish last in my book.
I have even shot the wrong ball & told my opponent I fouled. It really depends whom you are playing.
Remember be a sportsman, It will come around full circle (Most of the time)
I would say most of the time I would tell them
Besides i'm a (C) player so most of the time i will get another shot at the rack.
What ever goes around comes around. Nice guys don't always finish last in my book.
I have even shot the wrong ball & told my opponent I fouled. It really depends whom you are playing.
Remember be a sportsman, It will come around full circle (Most of the time)
Yah. As opponents, you are defined by your goals...which happen to be perfect opposites. War, baybee!
Guy's lucky I don't steal the cue ball.
What you said, it's not my job to show the other player how to beat me :thumbup:
Exactly my thoughts as well.