What's a Conservative Estimate of Cost

In my experience the Rio offers bad food at high prices. A half-mile walk gets you to much better options. But suppose you are about to have a match and you want a little snack. The food in the registration area was something like:

$4 small banana
$6 coffee
$6 donut
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$16 for pre-match snack

I decided to give the Rio as little of my food money as possible. I brought my own bananas.
Bob how much did you tip??

Sounds like $20 after the napkin fee lol
 
If you are spending much more than rexus laid out then you're being uncreative or lazy.
No, I didn’t book anything in advance and I have different taste. I wouldn’t stay at the Rio for free.

I’m not lazy or uncreative. I lived in Vegas over 20 years and been there the last 30-I still own apartment buildings. I’d bet I know vegas as well if not better than anyone on AZB. Window on that topic is open.

Have a good day,
Fatboy🎰🎰🎰
 
In my experience the Rio offers bad food at high prices. A half-mile walk gets you to much better options. But suppose you are about to have a match and you want a little snack. The food in the registration area was something like:

$4 small banana
$6 coffee
$6 donut
----------
$16 for pre-match snack

I decided to give the Rio as little of my food money as possible. I brought my own bananas.
Yeah I grabbed a hot dog, banana, and a Pepsi for lunch there one day and it ran me $22. That was the last time I ate there. If you’re going to gouge on stupid stuff like that, I’ll eat/gamble elsewhere.

There are a few good places within walking distance of the rio that I like to eat at instead now. And that number will only go up now that the Palms is opening back up.
 
No, I didn’t book anything in advance and I have different taste. I wouldn’t stay at the Rio for free.

I’m not lazy or uncreative. I lived in Vegas over 20 years and been there the last 30-I still own apartment buildings. I’d bet I know vegas as well if not better than anyone on AZB. Window on that topic is open.

Have a good day,
Fatboy🎰🎰🎰
I was at the Rio last week and our group had no problem staying within the limits rexus outlined. Overall it was a very inexpensive and affordable trip. If an attendee spends more it's because of some decision they made, usually to prioritize convenience over cost.
 
I was at the Rio last week and our group had no problem staying within the limits rexus outlined. Overall it was a very inexpensive and affordable trip. If an attendee spends more it's because of some decision they made, usually to prioritize convenience over cost.
Well said, that’s correct.

I can’t plan out that far in advance. So I pay the price.

I hope you had a nice time there. I sure did. Was great to see so many people I know and that’s much more important than how “nice” a joint is. I’ll stay home if I want nice.

Seeing friends, sweating pool is much more important to me than the joint I’m staying in. I don’t like dirty rooms or $6 cokes.

Best regards
Fatboy 😄😃
 
Bob how much did you tip??

Sounds like $20 after the napkin fee lol
The good news is that the deal with CSI allows you to duck the "resort fee" which is basically $30/day for high speed internet. You have to know that it is optional, though. The room was fine for the reduced price. The food, though, was mostly not worth the price.

As for tipping, I did so reluctantly. I suspect that not all of the snack bar purchases were recorded on the cash registers, so there was some "self tipping" going on.
 
Parking was free there, and resort fee was optional. The coffee is super expensive there at Starbucks. And there is always 20 people in line.
I have never spent a dime at Starbucks and never will, it goes against everything I believe in. Meanwhile , every broke person I know can't wait to get in line at the place.
 
The good news is that the deal with CSI allows you to duck the "resort fee" which is basically $30/day for high speed internet. You have to know that it is optional, though. The room was fine for the reduced price. The food, though, was mostly not worth the price.

As for tipping, I did so reluctantly. I suspect that not all of the snack bar purchases were recorded on the cash registers, so there was some "self tipping" going on.
Sorry I didn’t run into you. I got there Sunday night. Went to Mary’s HOF dinner, was a very nice time. She’s done so much for pool with her pictures. Was a honor to be there.

All the fees and other stuff aside the fact that we could all go we should be thankful, that sitting at home for 2 years was horrible. I hope you had a enjoyable time

My best
Eric 😃
 
... . I hope you had a enjoyable time

My best
Eric 😃
I did have a good time. Most of it was at the 3-cushion World Cup. Jaspers, Blomdahl, Zanetti, Sayginer, Merckx .,..

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I was just out at the rio for the BCA nationals and it’s clear they’re only interested in doing the absolute bare minimum to keep that place operating.

  • Rooms are all run down and dirty. Broken fixtures in the rooms and in the hallways.
  • Lines to check in were out the door because they didn’t have enough people working the desk.
  • Half of the restaurants were on limited hours or closed all day except the weekends. Food prices were sky high. $6 for a can of Pepsi! They charged one lady $6 just for a cup of hot water. Not even coffee or tea, just hot tap water.
  • They even jacked the resort fee up another $5-10 to $40/night even though the pool wasn’t open every day and even when it was, only till 5pm. Plus all of the deck chairs and stuff they have out there are broken and basically unusable.
I’m hoping they move out of there when they can because it’s not worth paying strip prices for a place like the rio. I’ve never been to the apa event at the west gate but it certainly can’t be any of a worse venue than what the BCA/USAPL use.
Westgate reminds me of Imperial Palace and the arm wrestling tournaments we used to have there. Just not a great place IMHO.
 
When I was in college, I went to Vegas on a "12 hour turn around special": for $75 total cost per person, a couple of friends and I flew to Vegas in the morning, and when we landed we were taken to the sponsoring casino where we were each given $75 in chips. They were special chips, though: you couldn't cash them in, all you could do was bet the chips, and if you won, they would give you the special chip back plus a real chip. For example, if you bet a $5 special chip on a hand of blackjack, and you won, they gave you the $5 special chip back plus a real $5 chip. If you lost, the casino kept the special chip. We determined that the $75 was essentially cash because even if you ended up a net winner, you would lose enough bets along the way to flush the special chips out of your stack. As a result, the round trip flight plus the transportation to and from the airport were basically free.

We had a great time gambling and drinking free drinks all day. In the evening, when the time neared for our return flight home, one of my friends, who was sitting at a blackjack table, kept saying, "One more hand! One more hand!" As we looked nervously at our watches, our ride to the airport departed. We still had some time before our flight departed, so our plan was to catch a taxi shortly thereafter. Finally, we could wait no longer, and we yanked our friend off the blackjack table and ran outside to catch a taxi. The taxi dropped us off at the airport, and we sprinted inside. We told the agent at the desk that we were on the gambling junket, and he informed us that the plane had already boarded, and it was preparing for takeoff. No!!! Then, the agent looked at something and exclaimed, "Wait, your seats are guaranteed. I'll tell them to hold the plane. Hurry!" And, off we went sprinting towards the gate. A nice lady escorted us out onto the tarmac, then the workers rolled a gangplank up to the plane, and the lady told us to wait, and she went up the gangplank and into the plane. After a few minutes, she came back down the gangplank, and she told us she had to go get airport security. I had a few beers in me since the last time I went to the bathroom, and I could not hold it in any longer, so I ducked under the gangplank, and I relieved myself on the tarmac, hoping to finish before the cops showed up.

The lady returned with two airport cops, and up the gangplank they went. We still didn't quite know what was going on. Then the airport cops dragged three people off the flight, and as they went storming past us, the now former passengers cussed at us yelling, "F...k you, assholes!" Then the lady escorted us up the gangplank and led us to our seats. Wow! We made it!

Times sure have changed!
 
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When I was in college, I went to Vegas on a "12 hour turn around special": for $75 total cost per person, a couple of friends and I flew to Vegas in the morning, and when we landed we were taken to the sponsoring casino where we were each given $75 in chips. They were special chips, though: you couldn't cash them in, all you could do was bet the chips, and if you won, they would give you the special chip back plus a real chip. For example, if you bet a $5 special chip on a hand of blackjack, and you won, they gave you the $5 special chip back plus a real $5 chip. If you lost, the casino kept the special chip. We determined that the $75 was essentially cash because even if you ended up a net winner, you would lose enough bets along the way to flush the special chips out of your stack. As a result, the round trip flight plus the transportation to and from the airport were basically free.

We had a great time gambling and drinking free drinks all day. In the evening, when the time neared for our return flight home, one of my friends, who was sitting at a blackjack table, kept saying, "One more hand! One more hand!" As we looked nervously at our watches, our ride to the airport departed. We still had some time before our flight departed, so our plan was to catch a taxi shortly thereafter. Finally, we could wait no longer, and we yanked our friend off the blackjack table and ran outside to catch a taxi. The taxi dropped us off at the airport, and we sprinted inside. We told the agent at the desk that we were on the gambling junket, and he informed us that the plane had already boarded, and it was preparing for takeoff. No!!! Then, the agent looked at something and exclaimed, "Wait, your seats are guaranteed. I'll tell them to hold the plane. Hurry!" And, off we went sprinting towards the gate. A nice lady escorted us out onto the tarmac, then the workers rolled a gangplank up to the plane, and the lady told us to wait, and she went up the gangplank and into the plane. After a few minutes, she came back down the gangplank, and she told us she had to go get airport security. I had a few beers in me since the last time I went to the bathroom, and I could not hold it in any longer, so I ducked under the gangplank, and I relieved myself on the tarmac, hoping to finish before the cops showed up.

The lady returned with two airport cops, and up the gangplank they went. We still didn't quite know what was going on. Then the airport cops dragged three people off the flight, and as they went storming past us, the now former passengers cussed at us yelling, "F...k you, assholes!" Then the lady escorted us up the gangplank and led us to our seats. Wow! We made it!

Times sure have changed!
Yeah, peeing under the gangplank would get you on the sex offenders list nowadays, unless you had a way to grease.
 
In my experience the Rio offers bad food at high prices. A half-mile walk gets you to much better options. But suppose you are about to have a match and you want a little snack. The food in the registration area was something like:

$4 small banana
$6 coffee
$6 donut
----------
$16 for pre-match snack

I decided to give the Rio as little of my food money as possible. I brought my own bananas.

You are correct, just walking across the street gives you more options. Walgreens, Dennys, Chick Fil-A and other food choices. I bumped into some of the pros food shopping at Walmart.

Except for Hash house, I don't understand why the other in-house restaurants choose to remain closed mid-week, only opening for the weekend.
 

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You are correct, ... remain closed mid-week, only opening for the weekend.
Well, I got the price of a donut wrong. They are $7, not $6.

The irritating part of the closures for me was that the actual hours were not posted at the restaurants. I was poking around the Hash House trying to find out what was happening and a suit came up and asked if I needed something. In response to my question about hours, he was wrong by a day -- he said they would be closed the next day and they weren't.

It's hard to find good help.

Another irritating thing about the Rio restaurants is that they don't post menus. I guess they don't want the prices to scare away the suckers.
 
If you have to ask
I would agree with you if you are in a Michelin Star restaurant. Asking in this instance is more about how bad do you want to get fucked vs can I afford it. The prices are insane. $7 for a shitty donut? I get why they do it. Other options are a fair distance away but that doesn't make it right. The least they could do is have good quality if they are going to price gouge.
 
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