What's the best way to test my stroke and how to improve it?
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Shouldn't a semi-pro like yourself know the answer to that?
the guy asked the instructors
thats the best you can do ???
is he someone who posts here alot even tho not an instructor???
I love how Fran starts a huge thread about how people who aren't certified instructors should not be able to post in Ask the Instructor and then gives someone that response. He is a new poster and maybe he can do that drill fine but is asking if there are other ways to test his stroke. Would he have gotten the same response if he had simply asked what are some drills to test the quality of his stroke? I am not an instructor but really feel that comment was out of line.
bbb: He call s himself a professional gamer and a semi-professional pool-gamer. And if someone is *outing himself* like that, he should perhaps really know the answer
So, semi professional (or professional, for that matter) don't need instructors/coaches?
Yeah... That's exactly what I was asking... I doubt you can know if your stroke is perfect only with that drill... I don't have trouble going 5 times in a row with that one, so that's why I'm wondering... This can't be the true test of one's stroke...
im not an instructor
but try that shot with draw instead of a rolling ball
another one
place the object ball in the pocket or one diamond up the long rail
place the cue ball 6 diamonds away
make the ball and draw back to scrtach in the corner
and for your follow stroke.....:grin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDGvdPR_LHo&feature=fvwrel
for the straightness of your stroke with follow
line up the cue ball and object ball in a straight line to the pocket
make the ball and follow the cue ball into the pocket
more distance between cue ball and object is more diffeicult (until you get the object ball too close to the pocket , then if you are off a hair there isnt enough distance for the cue ball to go off line and not follow into the pocket)
hope a real instructor wont think this is bad advice
im trying to help and im willing to learn
but try that shot with draw instead of a rolling ball
another one
place the object ball in the pocket or one diamond up the long rail
place the cue ball 6 diamonds away
make the ball and draw back to scrtach in the corner
and for your follow stroke.....:grin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDGvdPR_LHo&feature=fvwrel
for the straightness of your stroke with follow
line up the cue ball and object ball in a straight line to the pocket
make the ball and follow the cue ball into the pocket
more distance between cue ball and object is more diffeicult (until you get the object ball too close to the pocket , then if you are off a hair there isnt enough distance for the cue ball to go off line and not follow into the pocket)
hope a real instructor wont think this is bad advice
im trying to help and im willing to learn
It is a start.
Progressive stop shot drills. Accepting only a perfect result, is another.
Search this forum there was a lengthy discussion about this before.
Progressive stop shot drills. Accepting only a perfect result, is another.
Search this forum there was a lengthy discussion about this before.
Bottle
When I was younger I would lay an empty coke bottle on the table and stroke in and out of it without hitting the edges of the rim of the bottle. I would count how many I could do in a row without hitting the bottle. After a bout 100 or so without touchingthe bottle and going in kind of shallow, I would open up my stroke and go deeper into the bottle and count those. I guess the helps with accuracy more than anything. I learned that from an old timer. It helped my game a lot on accuracy. I would also start slow and eventually speed up to a pretty fast stroke. I'm not an instructor, so take it for what its worth.
When I was younger I would lay an empty coke bottle on the table and stroke in and out of it without hitting the edges of the rim of the bottle. I would count how many I could do in a row without hitting the bottle. After a bout 100 or so without touchingthe bottle and going in kind of shallow, I would open up my stroke and go deeper into the bottle and count those. I guess the helps with accuracy more than anything. I learned that from an old timer. It helped my game a lot on accuracy. I would also start slow and eventually speed up to a pretty fast stroke. I'm not an instructor, so take it for what its worth.
If you really want to test your stroke, put the cue ball on the head spot and an object ball on the foot spot. Now shoot the drill. Stop shot on the cb, make the ob return from the footrail and send the cb back to your tip. If you can do that, your stroke is probably fine.
Steve
"I love how Fran starts a huge thread"
How does one go about starting a huge thread? I'd just like to know for future reference.
"....about how people who aren't certified instructors should not be able to post in Ask the Instructor"
This is one of many reasons why I think non-instructors shouldn't give advice here. Instructors at least try to pay attention to what is being written in the thread because they feel a sense of responsibility in their responses. After writing at least 5 different times in that thread that I felt that it didn't matter whether the instructor was certified or not, look what this person gets from that thread.
I have a reason for asking that semi-pro the question I did. Depending on if he responds to me and how, will depend on how I will respond to him and either give him advice or not. Sorry if you don't like my way, but there is a method to what I do. I am a teacher. You are obviously not.
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I still think Kinister's Shot#1 is the best stroke-building drill... for many reasons.
... Thanks.
Hey everyone, I got these answers somewhere else for drills:
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2) Add a little pressure on by putting a ball on each side of the spot, with just enough space for the cue ball to pass through. Cue down the table again as in 1). The cue ball should come back straight at you & not touch any of the balls. You'll be surprised how these additional balls can increase your nervous tension!
3)Line up 4-5 balls to the left & right side of the table along the middle pockets. Put the cue ball on the line such that each ball you attempt is a straight full ball contact into the corner pockets. Aim to pot the balls & let your cue ball follow through into the pockets. If you can do that, your cuing is perfect!!
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1) was the one I originally mentioned.
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2) Add a little pressure on by putting a ball on each side of the spot, with just enough space for the cue ball to pass through. Cue down the table again as in 1). The cue ball should come back straight at you & not touch any of the balls. You'll be surprised how these additional balls can increase your nervous tension!
3)Line up 4-5 balls to the left & right side of the table along the middle pockets. Put the cue ball on the line such that each ball you attempt is a straight full ball contact into the corner pockets. Aim to pot the balls & let your cue ball follow through into the pockets. If you can do that, your cuing is perfect!!
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1) was the one I originally mentioned.
With progressive practice drills you start with a shot you can make more than half the time and work your way towards harder shots but only as your skill improves. Most people will improve in such a situation just by trial and error. Improvement may be faster if they occasionally get input from a coach or instructor about any problems they're having or faults in their stroke.